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OB1
From IGN: (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/457/457952p1.html)

November 04, 2021 - In its annual Sony Corporate Strategy Meeting held in New York today, Sony Computer Inc. revealed the first official concept model image of the PSP, its upcoming powerhouse handheld.

As part of its presentation displaying how the IBM/Toshiba and Sony backed Cell chip will connect all future Sony Products -- from the PSP to TVs, computer, video cameras and PlayStation game consoles -- the first official shot appeared for all to see.

Due in the fall 2004, the PSP features an impressive set of specs including wide screen support (480x272; 16:9 ratio) that's will be backlit, the full PlayStation control set, embedded codecs and NURB technology for rendering full 3D polygons.

To get a better look what's under the hood, check these specs.

* UMD or Universal Media Device. This storage media is 60mm, about half the size of the traditional CD and has a capacity of 1.8GB. That's right GB. Expect massively complex, detailed gaming (for your handheld anyway). 2.4 inches.
* ATRAC encoding support (Sony's proprietary sound format used in their minidiscs). This could mean it will be a multi-media device.
* Graphics specs are also impressive: NURB technology for rendering with full 3D polygons.
* The unit's widescreen LCD screen (480x272, that's the coveted 16:9 ratio we all love) will be backlit.
* The unit's sound processing will feature full 3D sound, PCM, and will be "fully reconfigurable."
* MIPS 32-bit processor.
* Also, a secure ROM cartridge for anti-piracy efforts.
* Super-one-chip solution for graphics, sound, etc.
* Memory stick will be used for game saves. Also, for GPS functionality.
* Rechargeable battery.
* CPU: 90 nanometers with a clock speed TBD.
* USB 2.0 connection for talking to your PC, cellphone, even your PS2.
* Embedded RAM.
* Supports additional video codecs (other than MPEG 4.)

If this image represents the final model, then our suspicions about the flip top have been confirmed. We still have questions about the final format of the analog stick and other buttons as well. Will they stand upright, above the surface of the handheld, or not? We'll have more soon. For all things PSP in the future, make sure to check out our handheld site Pocket.ign.com
-- Douglass C. Perry

http://pocketmedia.ign.com/pocket/image/pspconcept_110403_2.jpg

http://pocketmedia.ign.com/pocket/image/pspconcept_110403_1.jpg

Very sleek, but kinda weird. Also, there's no analogue stick like Sony announced a month ago so it's definitely not the final model. I love the screen size.

Well, let's just wait until they unveil the final model.

A Black Falcon
Hmm... what's the scale of that thing? And that is certainly not final... very strange. I'd think the final one will have real buttons... having 'flat buttons' like that would be a interesting style but I don't know how well it'd work in reality.

Oh, and that well could still be an analog stick... but if that's the design they continue with they might end up with analog and no digital -- something no console has done (well, since before the NES...). And that's not really good.

Oh yeah, and Zodiac released their Tapwave gaming PDA. A great handheld... if you want to spend that kind of money. :)

OB1
The Zodiac is a well-designed handheld without any good games. Wee. BTW if Sony makes the analog stick like the Zodiac's then there would be no need for a d-pad. The Zodiac's stick is an analog stick but almost as flat as a d-pad.

A Black Falcon
No games? But it runs a version of PalmOS compatible... that has a lot of games. :)

Oh, and what do you mean by 'flat'? Is it more precise?

OB1
No good games. Deifinitely not ones worth the $300-400 pricetag of the handheld.

Here's what the analogue pad looks like:

http://pocketmedia.ign.com/pocket/image/tapwave_102003_2.jpg

http://www.tapwave.com/images/main_device_1_60_03.jpg

A Black Falcon
Well at least the Tapwave is well designed. And looks cool. :)

Games... I think that for the very limited market they're aiming at that's less important for now, since it does work with palm games. Not as good? True. But they're something... and I'm sure some games will come. Will the thing be successful as a standalone gaming platform? At that price probably not. But still... for people who like gaming and want a PDA it seems like a good in-between hardware.

Oh, and that seems like a nice solution for a analog pad on a system like that.

Dark Jaguar
Ya know, I've been thinking, and I realize now that having pressure sensitive version of a d-pad means the same level of accuracy, I think. I though "okay, so speed would be fully controllable, but what about angle?" until I realized something so obvious it's BRILLIANTLY idiotic! Simply put, angle is determined by the difference in pressure between two directions on the pad!

Yes yes yes yes I feel it now! Hmm, wonder if Sony will do that...

A Black Falcon
Well you COULD do a pressure-sensitive D-Pad, but analog sticks just work better for gradient-movement controls... flat ones like the Tapwave if you want it low, but a stick. :)

A Black Falcon
http://www.digitalbackspin.com/adm/templates/news-tmp.asp?articleid=467&zoneid=14

Hmm, it'll have multiple versions and a cell-phone?

Great Rumbler
Looks pretty nice, except for those flat buttons which look like they would be a pain to use.

OB1
Yeah hopefully that'll change, which I'm pretty sure they will.

A Black Falcon
shoulder buttons on a console that is shaped like that.... sounds like the most fun since the square NES controller! :D

OB1
It's going to be pretty small. Look how big that keychain hook is compared to the size of the system. Also, I don't even see any shoulder buttons there. Remember that this is not the final model.

Dark Jaguar
How about just putting them on the BACK of the system? That's what all shoulder buttons should have always been like!

A Black Falcon
On the back? That'd be quite odd... and how would that be comfterble? No, shoulders are better... though of course triggers are the best. :)

Dark Jaguar
... THAT'S WHAT A SHOULDER BUTTON ON THE BACK IS! IT'S A TRIGGER! I mean something like the buttons on the Virtual Boy's back or the Z trigger on the N64 pad. Probably more like the VB. Those were VERY comfortable trigger buttons.

alien space marine
Cool !

I wonder what games will be on it?

list.

1.Rock'in Roll racing
2.Lost Vikings
3.Blackthrone
4.Final Fantasy 3
5.GTA original.

A Black Falcon
But triggers require a grip... and I don't see how that could possibly work on a handheld. Unlike gamepads handhelds want to be a uniform, square/rectangular shape... that and triggers isn't really compatible.

Dark Jaguar
What's the difficulty? Just place them where one's index fingers rest naturally! Not that hard.

A Black Falcon
Huh? Buttons on the bottom or something? I don't get it... you can't have a thing underneath for a trigger to be on since its a handheld -- buttons have to be flat on the system. A button on the bottom? That sounds quite uncomfterble...

OB1
I just wanted to mention that this fish game looks like crap. :D


http://pocketmedia.ign.com/pocket/image/pspconcept_110403_2.jpg

Dark Jaguar
Bottom? No, on the back! Right under one's index fingers. I'd think that would be plenty comfortable myself, about a billion times better than on the top at any rate. Just use the middle finger to support it. The button doesn't have to really stick up out of hte back or anything, just be there where one can feel it. I don't see the difficulty here...

A Black Falcon
It still sounds pretty strange... I'm not so sure that that could at all work. On the back... might be okay for some people, but I don't know.

Oh yeah and they probably wouldn't really be triggers since 'trigger' implies a trigger-ish grip, like the N64 has... that would just be a funny-placed button that would take quite a bit of getting used to.


Oh yeah, and scale... what I've heard is that its 3"x7", since those UMD things are 2.4" square. A open GBA-SP is for comparison 3"x6". And of course that doesn't include thickness. :)

OB1
Here are some great comparison pics from Magic Box:

http://www.the-magicbox.com/Nov03/6750.jpg

http://www.the-magicbox.com/Nov03/pspc06.jpg

As you can see, the screen is almost twice as wide as the GBA's. That's going to be perfect for watching movies.

OB1
Crap, links won't work. Try here http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

A Black Falcon
Huh... interesting, not hugely large. Bigger than a GBA, definitely, but not as big as I'd think it would be... that's probably good for Sony.

Now for the battery life... and the price... with all those extras (cell phone, MP3 player, etc) I can't imagine the price being low. Or the battery life really being long enough to satisy people.

But how about those UMDs? They look kind of fragile... can they stand up to being in a pocket, knocked around, etc? I doubt it... not good for a portable. :)

Oh yeah... and where do those stats stand to land the system, graphically?

Also... region coding. Not surprising at all, but that's one thing the GBA has a clear win in...

OB1
Unless you plan on using the UMDs for baseball practice then durability shouldn't be a problem. They're like minidiscs.

Private Hudson
Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Now for the battery life... and the price... with all those extras (cell phone, MP3 player, etc) I can't imagine the price being low. Or the battery life really being long enough to satisy people.

All depends on how much they want this market. Apparently, they intend for this machine to be the next Walkman, so they are going to be extremely agressive. I saw one news report stating that it was rumoured to be as low as $60..:erm:

But how about those UMDs? They look kind of fragile... can they stand up to being in a pocket, knocked around, etc? I doubt it... not good for a portable. :)

Really shouldn't be a problem. MD's are durable enough. Plus you could always get a case. ;)

Oh yeah... and where do those stats stand to land the system, graphically?

Think somewhere between a PSX and a Dreamcast. Though, in some ways it appears to be more powerful than a DC. I guess we'll find out. On paper, it looks to be quite incredible.

Although for the record, I don't think that design looks all that comfortable. Looks cool, though. Stylish.. :)

A Black Falcon
All depends on how much they want this market. Apparently, they intend for this machine to be the next Walkman, so they are going to be extremely agressive. I saw one news report stating that it was rumoured to be as low as $60..

I'd say $300, minimum. With all that stuff no way it could be lower...

However, they did say that they'll have different models with different features. The ones without mp3 or cell phone or whatever abilities should be less expensive...

Really shouldn't be a problem. MD's are durable enough. Plus you could always get a case.

I was just comparing them to the nearly indestructible GB carts. :)

Think somewhere between a PSX and a Dreamcast. Though, in some ways it appears to be more powerful than a DC. I guess we'll find out. On paper, it looks to be quite incredible.

Although for the record, I don't think that design looks all that comfortable. Looks cool, though. Stylish..

Dreamcast-Plus, huh? That is what I've heard... quite powerful. Far, far stronger than any other handheld ever released... it is a good technical achievement, if nothing else. Their problem now will be convincing people that the tradeoffs (price, battery life (which IS a problem, especially with all those features! Just look at what people thought of the N-Gage's batt life!), etc) are worth it... but given Sony's marketing I think they well might be able to do that. We'll see.

And as I said several times, I agree -- it looks stylish in a way, but also looks very uncomfortable. And impractical with the flat buttons and stick...

OB1
I'd say $300, minimum. With all that stuff no way it could be lower...


Don't forget that both MS and Sony sold their systems for lower than they costed to manufacture. They each lost a pretty penny per console that they sold. If Sony wants to take over the handheld industry badly enough then I can see them biting the bullet, so to speak. $60, no way. But $200? I can see that happening.

I was just comparing them to the nearly indestructible GB carts.


That was one of the arguments Nintendo fanboys such as myself used against PSX fanboys back during the N64 days.

And again, people complained about the N-Gage's battery life because of how crappy everything else was with the system. They even complained about Tomb Raider and Tony Hawk, even though they are good ports.

A Black Falcon
Don't forget that both MS and Sony sold their systems for lower than they costed to manufacture. They each lost a pretty penny per console that they sold. If Sony wants to take over the handheld industry badly enough then I can see them biting the bullet, so to speak. $60, no way. But $200? I can see that happening.

Hmm... maybe. But not for the one with all the features, I am sure... $150-$200 for a baseline one (assuming that they do indeed release multiple versions of the thing at the same time)? Maybe. But not with the cell phone and all that... even they wouldn't take a loss that big... MS might, but Sony wasn't losing $100 on each PS2 I believe. Wasn't it like $80 or something? :)

That was one of the arguments Nintendo fanboys such as myself used against PSX fanboys back during the N64 days.

And again, people complained about the N-Gage's battery life because of how crappy everything else was with the system. They even complained about Tomb Raider and Tony Hawk, even though they are good ports.

True... but I like N64 carts too... :)

Yeah, yeah, I know Nintendo should have gone with CDs because it lost them the console race... but still. I like N64 carts! They look nice, are solid and hard to damage, and the N64's design is great... the curves in the thing look very nice, especially with a cart in it.

OB1
Cell phone?? Where on earth did you hear that the PSP was going to be a cell phone? That's the N-Gage, ABF.

Great Rumbler
Cell-phonage:

Reuters reported that Sony intends to put PlayStation Portable in more than one market, the system can be used as a cellular phone

I got that from The Magic Box, btw.

OB1
That's crazy.

Great Rumbler
I know! They must be on crack!

OB1
Crazy crack!

A Black Falcon
Actually, shockingly, I got it from the link I posted early in the thread... I'm SO suprised that no one bothered to click it! :rolleyes:

Lazy people...

http://www.digitalbackspin.com/adm/...d=467&zoneid=14

During a corporate Strategy meeting today, Sony president Ken Kutaragi showed off the first look at the upcoming PSP. Since the "Transform 60" meeting was about general corporate planning and not specific products or services, few additional details or specifications on the device were revealed beyond the design which was characterised as "a work in progress".

Kutaragi-san did offer two new insights into the unit, one being that cell phone capabilities were being planned for the device. The second revelation was that PSP will not be a product so much as a product line, with various configurations of the device selling at different price points.

While it's by no means certain that this will be the final form the PSP takes, it does give a good bit of insight into the thinking behind the device. The central area on the "back" of the device(where the logo sits) is the UMD disk drive. It's hard to tell from these images were the memory stick slot would be placed.

The official prototype won't be seen until E3 2004, so it's safe to assume that many design elements will change between now and then. But we think Sony is definately on the right track!

Now do you see what I was talking about here? Go read my responses again now and they might suddenly make sense now... :)

-_____-
Originally posted by A Black Falcon

I was just comparing them to the nearly indestructible GB carts. :)


From what i understand they're gonna be discs inside a case that you dont remove...so in a way its like the BG carts, but it has a minidisc inside of it. If im pulling this out of my ass, please, let me know.

A Black Falcon
There are pictures of the things at both the link I gave and Magicbox you know. :)

And yes, they do have a kind of 'cartridge' over the disc... semitransparent in the pics we've seen so far.

A Black Falcon
http://pocket.ign.com/articles/445/445564p1.html

Hmm, I don't know what to think...

Oh yeah, except this -- if the PSP honestly does compare nicely with the PS2 (but with only 8mb of RAM), then your protests that it won't be a PS2-In-A-Box with 95% ports will prove false.

OB1
I seriously doubt it'll be as powerful as the PS2. These gaming companies always overhype their consoles. Well, except for Nintendo with the GC.

A Black Falcon
That's what they are saying, though... and they're telling game companies to make games with under that assumption... though I agree, it'll probably end up not as powerful. But that still won't stop ports.

OB1
Even if it were as powerful as a PS2... only 8 megs of ram?

A Black Falcon
Sony is brilliant! So much RAM, they're true innovators...

Oh wait, this is 2003 we're talking about, not 1993, sorry... :D

alien space marine
Sony is the best for blowing it ,

A Black Falcon
And selling it anyway because of marketing, forcing people to develop for bad hardware as their main platform.

OB1
Yet they're still number one. And why is that? Superior marketing and the best third-party support.

A Black Falcon
Isn't that what I said?

OB1
Not really.

A Black Falcon
Yes it is!

OB1
Not really...

Great Rumbler
Yes it isn't!

OB1
Blast! You got me...

alien space marine
Nah! GBA wins !

Great Rumbler
Yes, the GBA is vastly better in its awesomeness...ingtude.

OB1
...ocity...

A Black Falcon
From Magicbox today.

- Several developers have revealed their plans for the Sony PlayStation Portable handheld system in the latest issue of Famitsu:

* Koei - working on 3 PSP titles
* Sega - plans to announced new PSP titles at the Tokyo Game Show 2004 this fall
* Namco - plans to release two or three PSP titles at launch
* Capcom - plans to deliver titles at launch. Kenzo Tsujimoto, the president of Capcom said the development of PSP is arduous.
* Square Enix - still evaluating whether to publish PSP titles
* Konami - plans to release at least one PSP title at launch


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/34739.html
Sony pencils November for PSP global launch
By gamesindustry.biz
Posted: 06/01/2022 at 22:12 GMT
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Newly-promoted Sony Europe boss Chris Deering has revealed that the company is planning to roll out the PlayStation Portable worldwide by the end of the year, with a global launch aimed in November 2004.

In an interview with official site PlayStation.com, Deering said that there was no official date for the unveiling of the handheld device, but added that he expected it to be announced widely well ahead of the November launch.

Most commentators had previously expected that the system would roll out in Japan only in late 2004, with launches in the USA and Europe following in early 2005. This is the first time that Sony has announced plans of a global launch for one of its consoles, with previous members of the PlayStation family arriving on a staggered basis in different territories.

Deering expanded slightly on other plans for the PSP in the interview, mentioning that as well as music, video and gaming content, other features involving GPRS connectivity, GPS positioning systems and messaging services are in the pipeline, and also hinted that there may be some interoperability between the PSP and the new PSX home media centre, via the Memory Stick interface. He described the device as "a very handy thing to have and something which will be very fashionable to be seen with."

On the topic of the PSX, Deering expressed his hope that the device would help to bring TiVo style functionality to the mass market, commenting that the system makes the use of high end features such as digital video recording and DVD burning "very simple," and hinted that the system might be able to download PS2 game demos or videos of forthcoming games as part of its functionality.

Deering's promotion is important on a number of levels, not least because it may hint at future moves higher up in the company, with SCE boss Ken Kutaragi widely expected to become the next president of Sony in the coming years. Deering hopes to bring about greater co-operation between the different Sony companies in Europe thanks to his new role; "I think there'll be more collaboration, and hopefully more fun, shared between the companies, and even between the music and movie companies eventually," he commented, going on to suggest that "we can lead the way and show the world how Sony can make the best of its resources by better co-operation in Europe."

A Black Falcon
Hey look, it's the original presentation in PDF format!

http://atari.upf.es/alumnes/~u5866/Files/IntroductiontoPSP.pdf

A Black Falcon
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/news_6086659.html

The third rumor.

OB1, if this comes true there go your protestations that it won't be mostly PS2 ports for sure...

OB1
Wow, that would be seriously suprising if it's true. PSP as powerful as a PS2? Damn... what's Nintendo going to do with their next handheld?

A Black Falcon
I really don't know... Nintendo definitely has some tough questions to work through for their next handheld, and I don't really know what the best choice is...

OB1
Well if it doubles as a cracker-maker then I think it would sell really well.

Great Rumbler
Yes, yes it would.

OB1
Or a waffle maker. That would be really great.

Great Rumbler
Or a lean, mean fat-grilling machine.

OB1
That would be pretty keen.

Great Rumbler
Or if it had an MP3 function...and mindlink capabilities and teleportation

A Black Falcon
Or magic technology that let Nintendo have it be powerful and have a big disc and have 10+ hours of battery life. :)

Great Rumbler
Well yeah, but we're trying to keep things within the realm of possiblity.

A Black Falcon
Like a waffle maker.