View Thread : Which Candidate For Prez Do You Most Relate To?


DMiller
My sister showed me a pretty cool site that has you choosing your stance on a number of issues and it then ranks the presidential candidates, including Bush, based on your choices. The site is www.presidentmatch.com (http://www.presidentmatch.com/Guide.jsp2). You can go here (http://172.16.1.33/~derekmiller/prez.html) to see my rankings. I knew I didn't agree with Bush on a lot, but he really didn't fare too well in my rankings.

A Black Falcon
http://tcforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1557&page=3&pp=40
About halfway down... not this same poll, but a similar one. :)

Though that one asks more theoretical stuff than this just 'what are your stances on these issues' poll. This is a simpler one, just issues...

And anyway Kerry seems to have the Democratic side mostly wrapped up...

Anyway, I did the thing. No convenient thing to copy like the one I linked... oh well.

Percents seem a bit off -- I don't agree 100% with the person on top (even based on this quiz)...

Kucinich - 100%
Sharpton - 95%
Kerry - 87%
Dean - 84%
Clark - 82%
Edwards - 77%
Bush - 6%

Great Rumbler
Bush - 100%
Kerry - 71%
Edwards - 71%
Clark - 64%
Dean - 60%
Sharpton - 59%
Kucinich - 48%

DMiller
You're right, that other poll is much more specific. Here are my results from that one:

1.*Your ideal theoretical candidate. **(100%)
2.*Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat **(73%)
3.*Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat **(72%)
4.*Socialist Candidate **(68%)
5.*Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat **(68%)
6.*Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat **(65%)
7.*Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat **(65%)
8.*Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat **(63%)
9.*Libertarian Candidate **(42%)
10.*LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat **(42%)
11.*Bush, President George W. - Republican **(26%)
12.*Phillips, Howard - Constitution **(13%)

The socialist candidate was the third most viable candidate for me. :o

A Black Falcon
http://www.selectsmart.com/president/

From when I did it two weeks ago.

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (81%) Click here for info
3. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (79%) Click here for info
4. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (74%) Click here for info
5. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (73%) Click here for info
6. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (70%) Click here for info
7. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (66%) Click here for info
8. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (61%) Click here for info
9. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (48%) Click here for info
10. Libertarian Candidate (24%) Click here for info
11. Bush, President George W. - Republican (9%) Click here for info
12. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (7%) Click here for info

Did it again.. lets see how it compares! :) The only 'problem' with it is that so many issues are important... :) And nothing is of low importance.

Oh, unclick the 2nd and 3rd boxes in 'Candidate Viability' -- the 2nd one adds the Green Party, and the third for several other third parties. :)



1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Green Party Candidate (88%) Click here for info
3. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (81%) Click here for info
4. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (79%) Click here for info
5. Socialist Candidate (77%) Click here for info
6. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (73%) Click here for info
7. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (71%) Click here for info
8. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (71%) Click here for info
9. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (70%) Click here for info
10. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (44%) Click here for info
11. Libertarian Candidate (23%) Click here for info
12. Bush, President George W. - Republican (9%) Click here for info
13. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (6%) Click here for info

A few percents different in a few but nothing big... the only one worth mentioning is 5% more for Kerry. Wonder what I said differently...

Oh how shocking, Green Party in first. ... wait, I expected that... :)

Fittisize
Here goes:

Sharpton-100%
Kucinich-95%
Kerry-88%
Dean-84%
Clark-83%
Edwards-79%
Bush-69%

But uh....it's too bad I have no clue who any of these people are.

A Black Falcon
Well you're Canadian... :)

Ryan
From this quiz:

1. Bush: 100%
2. Edwards: 51%
3. Dean: 51%
4. Clark: 49%
5. Kerry: 49%
6. Sharpton: 42%
7. Kucinich: 27%

N-Man
Your Results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Libertarian Candidate (72%) Click here for info
3. Bush, President George W. - Republican (53%) Click here for info
4. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (48%) Click here for info
5. Green Party Candidate (44%) Click here for info
6. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (44%) Click here for info
7. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (43%) Click here for info
8. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (43%) Click here for info
9. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (41%) Click here for info
10. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (40%) Click here for info
11. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (38%) Click here for info
12. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (36%) Click here for info
13. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (31%) Click here for info
14. Socialist Candidate (29%) Click here for info
15. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (28%) Click here for info
16. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (15%) Click here for info
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (14%) Click here for info

A Black Falcon
Huh... Libertarian... as I've said before, that's a strange party...

geoboy
This quiz was pretty accurate in my case.

Kerry - 100%
Dean - 95%
Sharpton - 93%
Clark - 93%
Kucinich - 90%
Edwards - 82
Bush - 54%

I've liked Kerry ever since he kicked off his campaign with his interview on Meet the Press. I never really liked Dean, but after watching the Democratic debate for New Hampshire, I realized I agree with quite a few of the issues he stands on.

I also liked Bush. I'm still happy he won presidency over Gore. I feel like I was the only one who stuck up for Bush when others always called him a bumbling fool. But my feelings have changed this time around and I feel Bush's time is up. We've got better men to take his place.

Ryan
Lyndon LaRouche? Wasn't it one of his 12 or so supporters who Al Franken got in a fight with at a Deaniac Rally?

A Black Falcon
The one I linked is better, I think, at least for me... DMiller's one is okay but a bit farther off, and it's just got the major party candidates -- I like seeing how I do with the Greens, Libertarians, etc. too.

Ideally I'd say Kucinich, Dean, Kerry, Clark, Edwards, Sharpton, I think... Sharpton has some good views on some issues but just has alienated too many people too many times to be viable at all.

Lyndon LaRouche... he "runs" every time... what an idiot...

Ryan
Actually, it bears noting that Franken actually beat the guy.

If your only vocal supporter in America can be physically bested by Al Franken, of all people, you have no right to run this country. :D

A Black Falcon
Maine had its caucus today... I didn't go but getting there would probably be hard. Anyway it's not like the outcome is much in doubt... and looking at returns, it wasn't. Kerry won big with almost half the vote... Dean second with ~30, and the surprise (well kinda, though not really when you think about it since he spent way more time here than anyone else) was Kucinich at 15%...

Ryan
Didn't Kucinich do somewhat respectably in another state? I'm thinking Washington.

Fittisize
Here's the other one:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Green Party Candidate (81%) Click here for info
3. Socialist Candidate (74%) Click here for info
4. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (73%) Click here for info
5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (72%) Click here for info
6. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (71%) Click here for info
7. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (71%) Click here for info
8. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (65%) Click here for info
9. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (65%) Click here for info
10. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (63%) Click here for info
11. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (61%) Click here for info
12. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (47%) Click here for info
13. Libertarian Candidate (29%) Click here for info
14. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (23%) Click here for info
15. Bush, President George W. - Republican (19%) Click here for info
16. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (6%) Click here for info
17. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (0%) Click here for info

A Black Falcon
Didn't Kucinich do somewhat respectably in another state? I'm thinking Washington.

8% in Washington yesterday, 15% in Maine today... he won't win or anything, but a very good showing for a protest candidate. In Maine I guess all those trips (he came to Maine six times, far more than anyone else) paid off...

Great Rumbler
He actually did better than John Edwards in Washington and Maine!!

A Black Falcon
Yup... Kucinich finished fourth in Washinton and third in Maine... as I said, a pretty good showing. :)

Edwards? I didn't expect him to do well here. He's a southerner... and pro war. Same with Clark... Kerry and Dean are New Englanders, I'd certainly think they'd be on top. And as for Kucinich, he's the most liberal candidate and primaries are for the base, not the mainstream -- protest farther out candidates can get votes.

If I was voting for who I thought had the best policies I'd certainly vote for Kucinich... but he is not electable at all... but he wouldn't win the caucus anyway so there's no harm in voting for him, especially with Kerry doing really well.

Ryan
Tomorrow's the Virginia primary. I'd vote for Dean, but at this point I'd be wasting my time.

alien space marine
Dean is clinicaly dead and has no chance of winning, I guess his little scream scared everyone away. :rofl: I guess weltall you wont see him get spit on by Bush after all. Dean is scum some one give him a gun and finnish it off.

To be honnest why dont they just give it to John kerry and stop wasting precious time.Unless Clark or Edwards makes a maraculous come back and start winning loads of states, the hole thing will be pointless as from here we can see Kerry winning most definently.

Ryan
It wasn't a personal thing. It's not even so much that Dean's policies are a little more off-center than the rest, I don't care if Bush ran against Papa Smurf in the end, I just don't want a liberal president. Dean getting the nomination would have pretty much ensured that.

A Black Falcon
Pretty much.

DMiller
I'm glad it's coming down to Kerry. He's the one I've followed from the beginning even when I thought he had no chance of winning, and it's good to see him running away with it now. Last election the only candidate I really liked out of both parties was McCain, and I was disappointed when I was forced to choose between Gore and Bush in the election. Now I'll have no problems voting for a candidate for president as I really like Kerry.

Great Rumbler
I was hoping that Edwards would get the nomination...well, actually I was hoping that Leiberman would get the nomination but he never had a chance of getting it.

A Black Falcon
Leiberman is a moron. He never had a chance, thankfully. Edwards? Too pro-war and too southern. :) Kerry's good, but I just like Dean more...

alien space marine
I was hoping Gore would come back for a rematch! He seems pretty personal about Bush nowadays I would call it pure rage.


If Bush ever does get elected atleast have the curtesy of nuking the Germans, If Kerry is elected I hope he has Bin ladins head on a platter by 2008.

Great Rumbler
Too pro-war and too southern.

There's nothing wrong with that.

A Black Falcon
There is in my book. I'm tired of southerners in office... 11 years now...

N-Man
I think a team of Kerry (P) and Edwards (VP) would have the best chance, out of all possible combinations, of beating W. I wouldn't particularly mind Kerry as Pres of the US myself, though Edwards would be best out of the Democratic pack IMO (at a glance). Dean and Clark are both maroons, Lieberman and Gephardt just don't stand out enough, and Kucinich and Sharpton are basketcases.

It is all, however, irrelevant, as everyone ought to vote for Ronnie James Dio.

DMiller
Kerry and Edwards would be a great combo. They have a few differences of opinion, but for the most part they have a lot in common. The fact that Edwards is from the south would really help Kerry win.

A Black Falcon
Yeah, Kerry-Edwards might make a good ticket, with regional balance and all... and you don't need to agree on everything with your VP. After all the VP doesn't do a whole lot, usually... :)

Great Rumbler
How about this combination for a Democratic ticket: Dean and Gore.

And their slogan:

Dean and Gore: We yell really loud...for the working man [or woman!]!

Ryan
http://gallery.johnkerry.com/albums/album168/aaa.jpg
"Hi there! I'm another white liberal multimillionaire hypocrite who promises to save the poor in the same breath as I approve spending more money on campaign ads than any one hundred of myvoters will ever possess in their lives."

Howard Dean: VOTE FOR ME OR I'LL EAT YOUR CHILDREN! AND I MIGHT ANYWAY!

geoboy
Too bad Kerry isn't the most photogenic fellow.

A Black Falcon
It is the antithesis of hypocricy to advocate raising your own taxes while cutting them for other people...

Ryan
And it's very easy to care about the poor when the most stressful financial decision you have to make is which five-thousand dollar suit you're going to wear to the fundraising luncheon that has an entry cost high enough to feed a family of four for a decade.

A Black Falcon
Far better than not caring about the poor like Bush.

Ryan
Democrats don't care any more than Republicans. They just do a better job of pretending to. They tell them what they want to hear.

A Black Falcon
You are just delusional.

geoboy
They tell them what they want to hear.

Oh, so it's exactly like Bush's State of the Union Address last month? Lots of empty promises in that thing.

Ryan
Yes. That's politics. We're always told what we want to hear.

It should be known that Bush was never my first choice for President. It was just that he was a much better choice than Gore, and better than any Democrat running now.

I voted for McCain in the 2000 Primary. :S

But yeah, they all tell us what they think we want to hear. So if I'm poor, the Democrats will tell me it's the Republicans' fault. If I'm even employed, I'm probably in a union job. Being poor, I'm probably also uneducated, so there's a good chance I'd be dumb or gullible enough to believe it. Thus, I vote Democrat.

Darunia
I matched up 100% for Bush...which is odd, because I was liberal on more than one issue; i.e. removing the 10 Commandments from public buildings, and I'm pretty sure Bush is against that.

Geno
I matched up 100% with Kerry. Didn't expect to match up with anyone that much, unless that's the score they automatically give to whomever is in first place when you take the quiz. In last place was Bush. I don't remember my other rankings (I believe Dean was in second) and I don't feel like taking the quiz again to find out my exact rankings.

A Black Falcon
As I said, it has .. leeway. You don't need to actually agree on all those issues 100% to get 100%, given how I know I disagreed with the person I got 100% from on several categories. As I also said, the one I linked is better. :)

Ryan
Lyndon LaRouche beat Lieberman in several precincts in our primary yesterday.

Great Rumbler
Lieberman isn't even running anymore...

A Black Falcon
Yeah...

Oh, and Al Sharpton had like 25 votes in the state of Maine. :D

Great Rumbler
It looks like the race could be heating up. If Edwards can convince the people who would have voted for Clark to vote for him it could turn into a close race, on the other hand those voters might vote for Kerry instead. We'll just have to see.

Fittisize
Dang, Sharpton only got 25 votes? But he was the dude that I was 100% with on that first little quizlet dealie! Hey wait! I don't care.

But uh, I kinda like Al Sharpton, 'cause in Fantasy Baseball the last two years there was a guy name Al Sharpton Sucks (I kicked his ass in playoffs btw), and he was a real asshole so I guess I like him just because he thinks he sucks.

A Black Falcon
Al Sharpton only attracts black voters, obviously, and there aren't many of those here. :)

DMiller
I doubt the race is heating up. Even though Clark and Edwards were both from the south I think they attracted different types of voters. Even if you combine the votes from Tennessee and Virgina for Edwards and Clark they wouldn't have beaten Kerry in those states. Seeing that Kerry can even win in the south pretty much convinces me he is going to get the nomination.

Great Rumbler
I poll I saw [forgot which state] showed Kerry with 46% and Clark and Edwards with about 25% each.

A Black Falcon
That was Tennesee. Clark and Edwards combined would have won, but they weren't combined so they didn't. Kerry had 41% last I saw in Tenn. and 50% in Virginia... oh, and Clark quit after the losses. We're down to five, and only one of them has a real chance of winning...

Ryan
25?

Hell, he got 1,300 in Richmond city alone. Not surprising, since the population of Richmond city is about 70% black, ruled by a corrupt city council, of which 5 of it's 9 members are under individual federal investigations, and has the highest murder rate of any city in America.

I deign to branch off on a different topic (yeah, right), but there's a huge debate in Richmond, again a racial issue.

Richmond's mayor is appointed by the City Council, and not by direct election. Our former governor, Doug Wilder (himself black) put forth a bill to replace the appointment system with a direct election system. The liberal Richmond City Corruption... er, Council called the bill 'racist', and that it would disenfranchise black people, even though a majority of Richmond's 70% black population favor the bill.

In other local news, a swastika spraypainted on the side of a black church is a hate crime, but racist graffiti spraypainted on a statue of Robert E. Lee is 'random vandalism'.

I hereby support civil unions for liberals and logic.

A Black Falcon
I haven't found any 100% returns numbers... even the Maine Democratic Party website ( http://www.mainedems.org/ ) only has 80% returns. I guess they're counting or something...


Maine
(as of 3:08 pm, ET) Reporting: 87%
Candidate Votes %
X - John Kerry 7,189
45.0%
Howard Dean 4,241
26.6%
Dennis J Kucinich 2,476
15.5%
John Edwards 1,223
7.7%
Wesley K Clark 602
3.8%
Uncommitted 195
1.2%
Al Sharpton 27
0.2%
Other (WI) 7
0.0%

As for empty promises, look no further than Bush's recent promise to add 2.4 million jobs. Yeah, right. Someone needs to tell him lying isn't okay...

Oh, and all the administration claims that even without a shred of WMDs it ws okay to attack Iraq the way we did is a pretty tall tale too...

Fittisize
I hereby declare Richmond to be the worst city in North America to live in.

alien space marine
I wonder who will run for vice president with kerry?

Ryan
I hereby declare Richmond to be the worst city in North America to live in.
I definitely can't disagree with that. I hate this city.

Great Rumbler
I wonder who will run for vice president with kerry?

Hillary Clinton!!

A Black Falcon
I don't know.. I doubt it.

Great Rumbler
It could be Edwards.

A Black Falcon
Yeah, that seems quite possible. It'd give national balance to the ticket too... that is important. Even if we don't have that good a chance of taking many southern states, we've got to try...

A Black Falcon
Very good article about Bush and Kerry...

http://citypages.com/databank/25/1210/article11875.asp