Nintendo's next Fantasy

News: Another Nintendo Fantasy Come True?

Posted by Ethan Pearson
There are now rumors that Square-Enix is making a new Final Fantasy game for GameCube that takes elements from FFVII, VIII, and IX on the PSX. It sounds like wishful thinking from people that were disappointed with FF:CC, but it has been reported by the Official Nintendo Magazine in the UK. It will be shown at E3 if true.

This would be great news if it's true, and ONM believes that it is.

N-Philes (http://www.n-philes.com/)

Yeah I hope it's true. Yay for the PSX remakes! Hehehe...

If FFCC does well enough we'll probably get SOMETHING...

But PLEASE no FF CC 2!

I wouldn't judge FFCC without playing it. I'll just say PLEASE if it has multiplayer allow gamepad use! :)

I've played the mutli and while it's pretty fun it's not much more than Gauntlet with cute characters.

If they're taking elements from the PSX Final Fantasies, then I doubt it'll be Crystal Chronicle 2.

Hey now! Crystal Chronicles is AWESOME. I found it about a billiion times more fun than any Gauntlet game myself.

By PSX you must mean PS or PS1 (that's archaic ya know). FF7,8, and 9 didn't really add that much that FF6 didn't add first. Aside from a card game, I don't see what else the PS1 FF games really did different. They each had their own unique ability system, but every single FF has that. Wait and see, just like all the other rumors. Remember there are a LOT of misses when it comes to rumors, don't only count the hits.

By PSX you must mean PS or PS1

What else could I possibly mean? Honestly, DJ...

Wait and see, just like all the other rumors. Remember there are a LOT of misses when it comes to rumors, don't only count the hits.

Well, this is more than just an average net rumor, but I know what you mean.

Well, you could have meant the PSX, which is just a deluxe PS2... and thus couldn't have exclusive titles anyway, so it's kinda obvious... So um, yeah... But, it's annoying to hear that term... shut up!

I'll say it again if I bloody well please! PSX!! PSX!! PSX!!

PSX! PSX! :)

What next, DJ, going to complain how I say NGC and not GCN, and don't always call it the GAMECUBE NINTENDO because that's what they'd like me to do?

Oh and you can't say Game Boy without the TM you know! :rolleyes:

Oh and you can't say Game Boy without the TM you know!

Don't say that, you fool!! They'll hear!!

And do what?

Send their NINjas! Remember those? The NINjas? The ones I talk about?

There's no other system that's also called the GCN though. It's just an annoyance because the X stands for NOTHINGNESS ITSELF.

eXperimental, right? :)

This is how it is with me:

PS1 = That miniature Playstation that Sony released a while back.

PSX = The original Playstation.

PS = Oh come on, nobody abbreviates it that way.

Yeah it's either PSX or PS1 if you're a baby.

CC is good if you like repetitive multiplayer Gauntlet-type games. Of course it's better than Gauntlet, but I hate Gauntlet so you know...

I hate Gauntlet too, but that's because it just rubbed me the wrong way. Nothing but a dungeon crawler with nothing in it other than monster mashing. CC had that, yes, but it had a whole lot more, with a huge world to explore, and towns, and the fun of synthesizing your own weaponry from parts and trading items and collections and such, and the whole system that kept people playing the game in a fun way with that sort of point based competition during the coop, four swords style. Besides, the guys at PA loved it :D.

But PSX already stands for something, you'll confuse people who's brains have been replaced with dynomite!

CC is fun for a nice round or two every once in a while, but it's nothing I'd buy.

Ah, well to each their own. Among my friends and I, we have three copies.

...why?

I'd still like to play it someday...

Well, we were looking forward to the game, so about the same time I bought it, they did too. We build up our characters and when we get together we toss them all into one world. This results in ONE world being WAY ahead of the rest, but it's all good.

Well sure. You all four getting Four Swords then as well?

Crystal Chronicles is awesome. i've logged about 15 hours into the single player and about 4 hours into the multiplayer and i haven't gotten fed up yet...just a little confused. i think it's way better than any gauntlet game i've ever played, and it has a much better realized game world that most final fantasy games. that is to say that they've added a depth to the world that is usually reserved for main characters in final fantasy games.

No, we all already GOT Four Swords, mainly because we all needed it to play it 4 player, the only way to play.

I'm talking about the upcoming GC game, silly.

Well you should have said Four Swords+ then.

I dunno. I'm getting it for sure. They MIGHT. I myself don't care if someone else has a multiplayer game, I must obtain it myself if I like it because I have to have perfect saves that I did all by myself.

It's not called Four Swords +, and I said will you all be getting the game, as in "will you be getting the game when it comes out?". Most Nintendo fans such as yourself buy big Nintendo releases shortly after they're released, and the GBA game has been out for well over a year.

It depends on if I can afford it. There are a lot of games I don't get for a while after they are released. I thought you just weren't aware.

Anyway, last I checked it WAS going to be called Four Swords +, but checking just now, seems it's being called Four Swords Adventures now.

Also, because NOA is too lazy to get American voice actors, they are DROPPING an ENTIRE MODE from the US version of this game!

http://cube.ign.com/articles/501/501264p1.html

I HATESES THEM! THEY STEAL OUR PRECIOUS STAMPSES! NOAAAAA! I'm going straight to Miyamoto and TELLING on you!

It depends on if I can afford it. There are a lot of games I don't get for a while after they are released. I thought you just weren't aware.
I knew that you already have the GBA game,

Anyway, last I checked it WAS going to be called Four Swords +, but checking just now, seems it's being called Four Swords Adventures now.
Yeah I know. I never heard Four Swords + though. Just Four Swords and now FS Adventures. And the GBA game is "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past plus bonus Four Swords multiplayer mode!", not just "Four Swords".

Also, because NOA is too lazy to get American voice actors, they are DROPPING an ENTIRE MODE from the US version of this game!

I HATESES THEM! THEY STEAL OUR PRECIOUS STAMPSES! NOAAAAA! I'm going straight to Miyamoto and TELLING on you!
I know, and on top of that they're charging us a full $50 for the game! What a rip-off. It should be no more than $35!

They will charge what people are willing to pay. That's how capitalism works. They will lower the price if not many people buy it.

The GBA game is called "The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past Four Swords", all one big arse title. Not whatever you claimed it to be. The Four Swords title alone is just called "The Legend of Zelda Four Swords". It doesn't have "plus bonus multiplayer mode" anywhere in the title.

They will charge what people are willing to pay. That's how capitalism works. They will lower the price if not many people buy it.


Nintendo is charging so much for an incomplete game because they're extremely greedy. It's the same reason why they charge $10 more for their greatest hits games than Sony and MS do.

The GBA game is called "The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past Four Swords", all one big arse title. Not whatever you claimed it to be. The Four Swords title alone is just called "The Legend of Zelda Four Swords". It doesn't have "plus bonus multiplayer mode" anywhere in the title.

Actually you are wrong. The GBA game is called "The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past", followed by "includes new multiplayer adventure Four Swords". It is not just one long title as you claim.

Yes it is. That's what it says on the cart AND on the title screen!

DJ, you are blind.

http://www.ganonstower.com/zeldaadvancebox.jpg

What does the box have to do with anything? The name on the cartridge trumps the name on the box. Besides, one can EASILY make the argument that the yellow text isn't even part of the name, but just an advertising bit that doesn't even count, like I'm doing now. Try turning ON the game. That's what determines the name.

Yeesh, since when do you consider EVERY bit of text on the box part of the name, and more importantly, that the name on the box is more official than the name on teh cart and on the main screen of the game.

Okay, let me put it this way. Spirited Away. The title when the movie starts says "Spirited Away". The title on the box, by your logic, is "Miyazaki's Spirited Away". So, what's the name of the movie? Obviously it's just Spirited Away, and the Miyazaki part is merely an acknowledgement of the movie's creator.

Ah, I see that you've edited your message. Wouldn't want to show everyone that you resort to name-calling sometimes, eh? *tsk tsk*

DJ, you are a dork!! A Link to the Past and Four Swords are two seperate games in that cart! It's like Mario 2 and Mario Bros. in the Mario Advance cart! Just because there are two games in one cart doesn't mean that the title is both games combined! It's like calling the Mega Man Collection "Mega Man Mega Man 2 Mega Man 3 Mega Man 4 Mega Man 5".

Nintendo's official site lists the game as "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past / Four Swords", NOT "The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past Four Swords". Also, when you boot up the game you choose between Lttp and Four Swords. Why is that? BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO SEPERATE GAMES!

Yes, I did insult you. I later decided to edit that out with a more sensible argument. For other's knowledge, I was saying OB1 is a stubborn mule who has been utterly defeated and MUST admit he is wrong in the face of it.

Oh yes, you seem to have completely abandoned the "Truth" you once accepted and are now acting like your entire argument is something else now. Who are you trying to fool here?

So, did you give up arguing that the whole bit where you claim the title is this?

Actually you are wrong. The GBA game is called "The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past", followed by "includes new multiplayer adventure Four Swords". It is not just one long title as you claim.

Yeesh, the ego on you. Do you really think you can pretend you didn't argue this? Yeesh, you pretty much assumed my own argument and now claim that you were arguing that the whole time? You essentially have proven me RIGHT! You won't believe that though, will you? Yeesh, the Patriots are right. You don't have the tools to excercise free will...

Of course it's two games. You argued that the name of the game is everything on the box, including "includes new multiplayer game" in the title. Now you pretend your argument is exactly what I said, "The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past Four Swords". All you added was a slash. Good for you, that's the title with proper grammer.

Yeesh, I wouldn't call the Megaman collection every game in it because that's not it's name. That's not what it says when you turn it on AS it's name. That IS what LTTP/FS calls itself both on the cart itself AND on the title screen. There is no alternate simpler name it calls itself like "Zelda Advanced", so that's it's name, and you just admitted I'm right about that!

Okay, let me put it this way. Spirited Away. The title when the movie starts says "Spirited Away". The title on the box, by your logic, is "Miyazaki's Spirited Away". So, what's the name of the movie? Obviously it's just Spirited Away, and the Miyazaki part is merely an acknowledgement of the movie's creator.

Bad example. A good example would be to call a double feature DVD with Porco Rosso and Castle in the Sky "Porco Rosso Castle in the Sky" when they are in fact two seperate movies. Their titles should not be combined, that is absurd.

It's a fine example because that wasn't your argument to start with! You ALWAYS change your argument to something else, something the other person never even was trying to debate, to pretend you are winning! Yeesh, once again you show you can't loose with any sort of grace. I win the original argument, and ALREADY agree with the argument you pretend you are arguing now. Why disagree with this thing you are arguing now when I ALREADY perfectly agree with it? What, you really think you can trick me into believing I don't think that? You might as well suddenly say "Oh yeah? Well you're wrong, black holes ARE invisible!", as it would be a similar complete subject change to some other argument which I already agree with anyway.

Yes, I did insult you. I later decided to edit that out with a more sensible argument. For other's knowledge, I was saying OB1 is a stubborn mule who has been utterly defeated and MUST admit he is wrong in the face of it.

Oh yes, you seem to have completely abandoned the "Truth" you once accepted and are now acting like your entire argument is something else now. Who are you trying to fool here?

So, did you give up arguing that the whole bit where you claim the title is this?

Yes, because your "truth" is so convincing. :whatever:

Yeesh, the ego on you. Do you really think you can pretend you didn't argue this? Yeesh, you pretty much assumed my own argument and now claim that you were arguing that the whole time? You essentially have proven me RIGHT! You won't believe that though, will you? Yeesh, the Patriots are right. You don't have the tools to excercise free will...

Of course it's two games. You argued that the name of the game is everything on the box, including "includes new multiplayer game" in the title. Now you pretend your argument is exactly what I said, "The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past Four Swords". All you added was a slash. Good for you, that's the title with proper grammer.

Yeesh, I wouldn't call the Megaman collection every game in it because that's not it's name. That's not what it says when you turn it on AS it's name. That IS what LTTP/FS calls itself both on the cart itself AND on the title screen. There is no alternate simpler name it calls itself like "Zelda Advanced", so that's it's name, and you just admitted I'm right about that!

I am right on both accounts. The box says what I initially said and the cart has the two titles seperate. Nintendo's official site seperates the two titles the same way I do. You clearly combined both games into one name, which is false.

Ah, sucks being wrong so often, eh DJ? Let me know when you're ready to admit your idiocy.

:far-out:

It's a fine example because that wasn't your argument to start with! You ALWAYS change your argument to something else, something the other person never even was trying to debate, to pretend you are winning! Yeesh, once again you show you can't loose with any sort of grace. I win the original argument, and ALREADY agree with the argument you pretend you are arguing now. Why disagree with this thing you are arguing now when I ALREADY perfectly agree with it? What, you really think you can trick me into believing I don't think that? You might as well suddenly say "Oh yeah? Well you're wrong, black holes ARE invisible!", as it would be a similar complete subject change to some other argument which I already agree with anyway.

I did not change my argument, as I still stick to it.

The title on the box is correct, Nintendo's official title is correct. I am correct. Your are not.

"Miyazaki's Spirited Away" is also the correct title of the movie. So is "Spirited Away", and so is "Sen to Chihiro".

Ugh! You are still pretending that that was your argument?

Of COURSE I believe they are two seperate games in one title!

Yeesh, your argument was that "includes muyltiplayer game" was part of the title, which is NOT true. You are now pretending you DIDN'T argue that. You aren't even acknowledging that I'm saying that. You will probably respond by saying "but they are too two seperate titles!" even though I said I believe that!

I mean, it's beyond words... WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

Ugh, now you are acting like you acknowledge BOTH to be EQUALLY correct titles?

Okay, while that's a fine view to take, it's NOT what you originally thought! I called it one thing and you jumped in to "correct" me for some ungodly reason, saying the ONLY correct title was some asinine inclusion of every single word on the front of the box. I of course respond saying "look, that's what it says when you TURN ON THE GAME" and it turned into this.

Look, can you PLEASE just admit you were wrong already? You KNOW what you are trying to do here. Just stop being a jerk about it.

Ugh! You are still pretending that that was your argument?

Of COURSE I believe they are two seperate games in one title!

Ah-HA!! Now you're changing your argument!! Your original argument was that the two game titles were one and not seperate! Now you're changing your argument because I so totally blew it away with my FACTS!

Yeesh, your argument was that "includes muyltiplayer game" was part of the title, which is NOT true. You are now pretending you DIDN'T argue that. You aren't even acknowledging that I'm saying that. You will probably respond by saying "but they are too two seperate titles!" even though I said I believe that!

I mean, it's beyond words... WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

The title DOES include "includes muyltiplayer game"! The box title, that is. Look at the side of the box, that's where titles go. WHAT DOES IT SAY? Yeah, THAT's RIGHT! It's not just the front of the box where companies usually add "extra crap included!", it's on the SIDE where the full TITLE goes! However, the other title I listed is ALSO true! Many games have different titles on the box and in the game. Super Metroid is also called Metroid 3, did you know that? Same thing goes for Metroid Fusion (that's called Metroid 4).

Ugh, now you are acting like you acknowledge BOTH to be EQUALLY correct titles?

Okay, while that's a fine view to take, it's NOT what you originally thought! I called it one thing and you jumped in to "correct" me for some ungodly reason

Actually YOU corrected me first. Hypocrite.

, saying the ONLY correct title was some asinine inclusion of every single word on the front of the box. I of course respond saying "look, that's what it says when you TURN ON THE GAME" and it turned into this.

Look, can you PLEASE just admit you were wrong already? You KNOW what you are trying to do here. Just stop being a jerk about it.

Girl, you are the one that is wrong here. I have provided real proof of my claims, while all you've done is say "OMG you're WRONG YOU MORON just admit that you're WRONG!". I'm dissapointing in you, DJ. Very childish.

First off, how can you be dissapinted in me when you never apointed me to begin with. Apparently every single time I disagree with you you "loose all respect for me". That's apparently supposed to make me feel "bad" or something, as though your opinion of me matters at all.

I've also offerend plenty of proof of my claims. The title screen SAYS "The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past Four Swords. It doesn't HAVE a slash in it, though it's implied, so I was fully correct in saying that was right.

You actually claim I started it eh? Well try reading the thread. I said "we already have Four Swords". You said "the full title of the game is actually The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past Plus all new multiplayer adventure Four Swords", for whatever reason. YOU started it.

I changed my argument? That's what I thought to start with! Of COURSE it's two games in one! Never said it wasn't! I was just saying what the official FULL title of the game is. Now you can call the box that title if you want, I guess, but you were trying to say that was the ONLY correct title. It could ALSO just be called A Link to the Past all by itself and that would be correct on it's own rights too. You gave ground when you said what I said only with a slash, and then you claimed I was saying something else.

Look, you don't even seem to want to acknowledge that the title I give is the ONLY one on both the cart and the game's own title screen. Show me where in the game itself it shows something else. Honestly, most people just throw away the boxes, so your odd title was just very weird.

Okay, let's just try this then. You accept that my title is right, and I'll go ahead and accept that your title, which is an odd way to read the box, but still I guess can be considered A correct title. Compromise? Also, you accept that you started the whole thing, and I'll accept that I continued it which is also a fault.

First off, how can you be dissapinted in me when you never apointed me to begin with. Apparently every single time I disagree with you you "loose all respect for me". That's apparently supposed to make me feel "bad" or something, as though your opinion of me matters at all.

Do you mean "lose"? :nodding:

I've also offerend plenty of proof of my claims. The title screen SAYS "The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past Four Swords. It doesn't HAVE a slash in it, though it's implied, so I was fully correct in saying that was right.

The two titles are clearly separated.

You actually claim I started it eh? Well try reading the thread. I said "we already have Four Swords". You said "the full title of the game is actually The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past Plus all new multiplayer adventure Four Swords", for whatever reason. YOU started it.

Wrong again! You corrected me by calling it "Four Swords+".

I changed my argument? That's what I thought to start with! Of COURSE it's two games in one! Never said it wasn't! I was just saying what the official FULL title of the game is. Now you can call the box that title if you want, I guess, but you were trying to say that was the ONLY correct title. It could ALSO just be called A Link to the Past all by itself and that would be correct on it's own rights too. You gave ground when you said what I said only with a slash, and then you claimed I was saying something else.

You ONLY said that the full title was both game titles combined and therefor made it seem as though you thought they were one game. What you THOUGHT and what you WROTE are two VERY different things. Also, I never said that there is only ONE title to the series. At first I corrected you by writing one of the title, and nowhere did I imply that that was the SOLE title.

Look, you don't even seem to want to acknowledge that the title I give is the ONLY one on both the cart and the game's own title screen. Show me where in the game itself it shows something else. Honestly, most people just throw away the boxes, so your odd title was just very weird.

Right, the box is just SO unofficial. :rolleyes: The cart cover clearly separates the two titles. It is not one long title as you claim.

Okay, let's just try this then. You accept that my title is right, and I'll go ahead and accept that your title, which is an odd way to read the box, but still I guess can be considered A correct title. Compromise? Also, you accept that you started the whole thing, and I'll accept that I continued it which is also a fault.

Uh, no because you are still wrong. Also, you started this when you corrected the name.

But since this argument is so ridiculous (I actually thought you were kidding at first... guess it's NOT below you) I will agree to drop it.

Um, I was TALKING about the Gamecube game when I said "Four Swords +" because for a while that is what it was being called.

Right, you corrected me about that and then I corrected you about the GBA game.

Yeesh, this is so utterly retarded.

I wasn't really trying to correct you, just pointing out that I was under the impression that that is what it was being called until I read the IGN article.

Keep in mind you are a part of this "conversation" here when you say that.

I realize that, and I regret being a part of it.

Then we are in agreement. Now then, to put the ridiculousness on BOTH our parts behind us.

Fine.



*cough*you're still wrong though*cough*


:)

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I sure hope you are joking there...

You are aware of why pride is a sin right?

Haha, I'm only trying to get your goat.

Well, you better not try to get MY goat!

A t-rex ate my goat, and I will thank you not to BRING UP SUCH A SENSITIVE SUBJECT! JERK!

Your FACE is a goat!!!

a t-rex ate DJ's face?!?!?!?!?

.... no

Gauntlet Legends / Dark Legacy = awesome. I just love those games. So much fun!

BGDA is decidedly inferior. It was entertaining and killed time before I coudl get Gauntlet for Cube, but it doesn't come close in fun factor. FF:CC I haven't played but from what I've seen... oh it's more complex than Gauntlet for sure, most games in the subgenre are (as Gauntlet is at least as close to being an action game as it is an RPG), but that doesn't mean it's more fun... anyway FF:CC doesn't look as much pure fun as Gauntlet. I played Dark Legacy some yesterday... great game. After I beat it I well may play it again, sometime, like I did with Legends... those games are just so much sheer fun...

Oh, and I'd call it 'The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past / Four Swords'. :) With the slash. It looks funny and wrong without it.

Like I said. :D

Like you said? No, you said something stupid about how that whole quote on the box is the title... I disagree with that one. :)

No, I said that the two games in one long title is stupid, and that the box says something different. The box is right, as it the game menu, and Nintendo's website.

But between the game and the box there are various ways that you could argue are "right", of course. Which one you choose is just opinion I'd say. :)

All of them are right.

EVERYONE is right.

Nintendo's official title for it seems to add a "the" where it isn't needed. I like that one! "The A Link to the Past" Yeah, that doesn't grate against MY VERY SOUL at all :D.