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Great Rumbler
Despite constant criticisms that Nintendo is not selling well in Europe it has been announced today by Nintendo of Europe that sales in German are high.

The GameCube has now sold over 530,000 units in German, that's over half a million.

The Game Boy Advance has also sold 1.25 million and the Game Boy Advance SP has sold 600,000 units.


When asked for his comments about this Shigeru Miyamoto said ":shiggy2:".

Cube-Europe (http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=6302)

OB1
Terrific news.

I love it how they added that 530,000 is over half a million. :lol:

A Black Falcon
I think PC games are very big in Germany... especially overly deep, inscrutible strategy games. :) ... well the government censors anything with blood and FPSes and stuff so that's much of what's left...

Cube doesn't have the complexity thing, but it does have the lack of violence. :)

Great Rumbler
That's what I heard too, that Germany is big on PCs but not so much on consoles.

big guy
i heard that germans are big into psychobilly once...and that if you ever wanna make it in that musical genre, you gotta make it in germany first...but i've never met a german who's even heard of psychobilly.

OB1
Germans are also big on David Hasslehoff.

A Black Falcon
I read an article in the paper (Boston Globe actually) that said Germany was very big on Michael Moore... one of his books sold twice as many copies in Germany as it did in the US...

big guy
i don't doubt it, there are a lot of extremely liberally minded people over there...

there are also a TON of neo nazi's...not so much in the middle, either way left or extreme right

OB1
Oh come on, there are probably more neo nazis in the U.S. than in Germany. They don't tolerate that kind of stuff over there now.

big guy
not according to a german girl i met...

she said that the big cities were pretty tame, but in more rural areas, there are neo-nazi's everywhere...

in fact, she had been kidnapped and beaten and possibly raped for a week by a group of them because she participated in anti-fascist protests...the details are shady, but there certainly are neo-nazi's in germany and they certainly aren't a small group.

OB1
Uh... how well did you know this girl? I've been to Germany a bunch of times and never once saw a neo-nazi. I saw plenty in the midwest U.S., however.

big guy
she was an exchange student from a smallish town in germany, she was living with my best friends girlfriend. she had some crazy stories to tell. and she really didn't like that my buddy and i were "Oi punks" because the oi punks around where she lived didn't care enough about the nazi problem. i thought it was interesting because i didn't think there were many neo-nazi's in germany either, and that they didn't tolerate that kind of thing over there...but, she claimed that they were there, just not so much in the big cities, which tend to be more liberal i assume. but she said that her whole town was pretty much run by the neo-nazi gangs.

and she considered them a pretty legit threat too...she didn't want to meet any of my skinhead friends because all the skins in germany are nazi sympathizers, or so she claimed. and because of her bad experiences with the neo-nazi's she wished not to associate with skins. even though my skin friends think that racism is pretty foolish, and most of them are even more liberal minded than i.

another thing that she said was that most germans will not hang a german flag on their house, and she was startled by all the american flags hanging up over here. she said that the only people in germany who hang the flag on their house are the neo-nazis. i suppose, having never been to germany, i could be very wrong. all of my information comes from her...i don't know...it didn't seem like she was lying, and i saw some of her scars, so...abyway, she seemed legit, and that's where my info's coming from.

it's also funny that you've seen so many in the midwest because i've grown up in michigan my whole life and i've only seen a handful. 2 that i know of for sure, and a few more that may or may not have been. then again, i live in a very liberal community.

alien space marine
aparently sweden has a pretty vicious group of neo nazis, They killed some people,Jews,gays,anyone who spoke agaist them.

OB1
I lived in Ohio, and there were plenty of neo nazis there.

Great Rumbler
I've never seen a neo-nazie before...

OB1
That's because they're INVISIBLE! And UNDEAD! REVERSE undead, actually!!!

Great Rumbler
Hellboy had Nazis in it, and Russian wizards.

Dark Jaguar
You've seen it? From what I've seen of the commercials, and that description, it seems like that movie has captured and encapsulated SUCK ITSELF! I mean, that movie can't POSSIBLY be good AT ALL. "Enough, just tell me how to kill it"? Right, and then A.N.N.A. the robot from the future kicks all the bad guys in their jewels and wins with a gamma atomic gun, and farts, and it's a huge hit!

I have never seen a neo nazi my whole life, nor do I know anyone who has. How can anyone actually sympathize with the nazis anyway? That's like sympathizing with, well... that's actually the WORST thing anyone could ever sympathize with so I really can't come up with an extreme example to point out how horribly bad it is.

OB1
The trailers do indeed suck, but the movie is terrific. Based off of an excellent comic, and pretty faithful to it. It's gotten mostly positive reviews as you can see here (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Hellboy-1131153/). 94 out of 122 reviews are very positive.

I doubt you'd like it though.

Dark Jaguar
Let's just say I totally agree with all the action movie parodies on Adult Swim. THOSE encapsulate the sorts of things I don't like about the stereotypical one of those. TIN FINS!

OB1
That stuff parodies the likes of Van Damme and Seagal. Hellboy is most certainly not a movie like that. It's more like an HP Lovecraft story with a very likeable main character and a central love story.

Great Rumbler
You've seen it? From what I've seen of the commercials, and that description, it seems like that movie has captured and encapsulated SUCK ITSELF!

That's crazy talk! Hellboy is an awesome movie! It certaintly isn't perfect and has a few visible flaws [mainly near the end], but if you can see past those then you'll see that Hellboy is a very cool movie.

OB1
What flaws? Speak in spoiler tags.

Great Rumbler
OMG, spoilers!!!

For one thing the second half really abandons a lot of the minor characters. They sort of get shoved out of the way and the three main characters are the only ones who are really present. Although if you watch through the credits it shows what happens to one of the guys, I missed that part though. And at the end where he kills Rasputin was sort of a let down being not much to it, but the fight shortly after that made up for it I think. Also, Hellboy's father was dying of some kind of heart disease but Rasputin has him killed anyway! Come on now!

OB1
For one thing the second half really abandons a lot of the minor characters. They sort of get shoved out of the way and the three main characters are the only ones who are really present. Although if you watch through the credits it shows what happens to one of the guys, I missed that part though.

That's why they're called minor characters. They serve their purpose to the story and are put in the background when the story no longer needs them. Are you referring to those other agents, or Abe Sapien perhaps? The agents are basically disposable characters like the red coats in Star Trek. Abe has a more important role at the end of the first mini-series (which the movie was largely based off of) as he "kills" Rasputin, but a lot of the details changed and he was no longer needed in the second half.

And at the end where he kills Rasputin was sort of a let down being not much to it, but the fight shortly after that made up for it I think.

One of the difficulties of adapting a two-hour movie from a large comic series is that you can't tell everything. Rasputin has a very long and interesting backstory in the comics, but there simply wasn't enough time to tell all of it. And that isn't even explained until the second mini-series when he comes back as a sort of ghost. Remember that Hellboy is part one of what will most likely be at least a movie trilogy, so Rasputin is very much like Vader in ANH that way.

Also, Hellboy's father was dying of some kind of heart disease but Rasputin has him killed anyway! Come on now!

Hey in the comics he dies in the first few pages when one of the Sammael frogs get him (they're a bit different in the comics). He lasted a lot longer in the movie, and they gave him that heart disease in order to establish his concern for Hellboy and what he wants Meyers to do for him. If he had just been killed by Kroener and not been dying then there would have been none of that. Sure he could have just died of heart failure, but then we wouldn't have gotten that look into his and Rasputin's character.

It's certainly not a perfect movie, but as a comic book adaptation it's among the best I've ever seen. And the 20 exta minutes of footage that will be added to the extended edition DVD in the fall should help things.