View Thread : Iwata interview...


A Black Falcon
http://www.gamespy.com/articles/505/505234p1.html?fromint=1

5 pages, nice read. (read it!)

http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/03_1081464692.jpg
Nintendo HQ sure is a exciting building!

DMiller
I see where they got the design of the GameCube from now. If that building was only purple (indigo) it would be the spitting image of the system.

A Black Falcon
No handle. :D

geoboy
Dammit DMiller! You beat me to it! :D

Great Rumbler
I bet they have lots of cool stuff inside that building...

lazyfatbum
In that building, on someone's hard drive... is Zelda hentai.

OB1
Miyamoto's, I imagine. :D

What I would do to visit that building. Man oh man...

big guy
i have one pornographic zelda image. it's funny.

Great Rumbler
What I would do to visit that building. Man oh man...


Come on, OB1! Let's go to Japan and break into Nintendo's headquarters!!

OB1
Alright!!!


*is too poor and lazy*

A Black Falcon
... come on someone read the article, it's interesting...

Great Rumbler
... come on someone read the article, it's interesting...

I'm too tired from all the AP History work I've been doing.

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James K. Polk!!

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Knights of Labor!!

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Battle of Bull Run!!

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THEY SHOT JAMES A. GARFIELD!!!! *head explodes ala Scanners*

A Black Falcon
They? But it was only one man! :)

OB1
I'll read it tomorrow.

OB1
Ok I'm reading the article, and as per usual Iwata says some crazy things.


"When it comes to the philosophy of making hardware, our philosophy is completely different than the direction Microsoft is taking," says Iwata. "I think they are simply looking toward beefed up technology for the next-generation console. And from the developers' and programmers' point of view, that kind of machine will be very difficult to work with. In the end, there will not be a sufficient reward in exchange for the hardships they will need to endure.
"That should create an opportunity for Nintendo because we are trying to make unique hardware -- not just a beefed-up version of GameCube, but something that will be easy to program. In the long run, that will make game development on our new system more profitable."
Since when is MS going to make their new system difficult to develop for? The X-Box is more powerful than the GC yet developers haven't expressed any problems developing for the X-Box. And with MS's very cool XNA plan, developing for the X-Box 2 should be a cinch.

Again this is just Nintendo's excuse to not make their next system as powerful as the competition's, which is a huge mistake.
According to Iwata, the technological jump from the current generation of consoles to the next will be so incremental that most consumers will hardly notice the difference. Perhaps he is correct, but he is hedging his bets.
I seriously hope he's joking. The new Unreal 3 tech demo is just a glimpse of what the next generation of gaming will be like, and it's already several times more graphically impressive than any game of 2004. If Nintendo is making their N5 technology with the hope that the next generation of systems won't look much better than the current generation, they are screwed.
"I think that its biggest shortcoming was that we were late in launching it," says Iwata. "Because of that delay, our competitors were able to create a large install base for their consoles. Even though it was easier for software developers to create games for GameCube, because of the delay, the developers had a chance to learn more about our competitors' machines. In the end, we could not match that advantage."


While that is part of the reason, it doesn't explain how MS has taken second place in North America and Europe.

Great Rumbler
They? But it was only one man!

Obviously you don't know anything about the "shot from the grassy knowl!!!111"!

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Wait, that was JFK...

OB1
I thought that was Old Man Tarnerson.

Great Rumbler
Yeah, it was him too.

A Black Falcon
While that is part of the reason, it doesn't explain how MS has taken second place in North America and Europe.

They have to say that because they can't admit that there are other factors involved...


I seriously hope he's joking. The new Unreal 3 tech demo is just a glimpse of what the next generation of gaming will be like, and it's already several times more graphically impressive than any game of 2004. If Nintendo is making their N5 technology with the hope that the next generation of systems won't look much better than the current generation, they are screwed.[/QUOTE]

Still, I'm sure that whatever hardware they end up with will be competitive. He doesn't say that they'd have it be far behind, just that they'd want it to things that are different as well...

Since when is MS going to make their new system difficult to develop for? The X-Box is more powerful than the GC yet developers haven't expressed any problems developing for the X-Box. And with MS's very cool XNA plan, developing for the X-Box 2 should be a cinch.

Again this is just Nintendo's excuse to not make their next system as powerful as the competition's, which is a huge mistake.

... Microsoft? Easy to program for? Uh, those are in the same sentence? :)

OB1
The X-Box is reportedly very easy to develop for, and MS's XNA idea has many developers extremely excited.

A Black Falcon
Very easy for people who are used to developing for PCs, I'm sure...

OB1
And that's a bad thing because...

A Black Falcon
It doesn't mean it's easy, just that they're used to it. :)

So the comments that the PS2 had a lead they couldn't match did have truth to them, the developers had time to get used to the complexity of the PS2...

OB1
It's still easy.

A Black Falcon
Because the XBN will be running, supposedly, more Mac-like hardware? :D

OB1
XBN?

A Black Falcon
X-Box Next!

OB1
It's not going to be like a mac.

A Black Falcon
Then what is it?

OB1
:erm:

A Black Falcon
As in haven't we heard that it'll change the hardware platform, etc, dramatically? To something more Maclike (or Gamecubelike?)?

OB1
I have no idea what you're trying to say...

geoboy
Macs use CPUs manufactured by IBM, and so does the Gamecube and so will the X-Box Next. The current X-Boxes use Pentiums.

I don't see, however, how that would make it very different to develop for. The only real difference would be the compiler they use for the code. And I'm sure Microsoft will provide that to developers along with any other neccessary tools.

geoboy
Holy screwed up double posting!

OB1
With MS's XNA program or plan (whatever you want to call it), developing new games for the X-Box 2 should be even easier than developing for the N5. XNA was basically created to make development much easier and faster and to make the transition from old hardware to new hardware seemless.

alien space marine
Do you think the consoles will launch at the same time?

A Black Falcon
Yes, the IBM CPU. And the many rumors of no backwards compatibility. The fact that it's leaving NVidia for ATI also says that there are big changes in the X-Box 2... 'More Maclike' doesn't sound like a bad characterization to me. Whether it's good or bad, I don't know, but it seems to be what's happening.

OB1
So because it will use an IBM CPU and an ATI card it's mac-like? :erm:

A Black Falcon
Not so much the ATI thing, but IBM... well, IBM makes Mac-like CPUs. Like, oh, the one in the Gamecube? :)

OB1
That doesn't make it Mac-like.

Great Rumbler
I wish I was Mac-like.

OB1
You are, bubba. You are.

Great Rumbler
Huh. I always thought I was more of a Von Neumann.

OB1
Only in Truffles.

A Black Falcon
And why not?

OB1
Why not truffles?

A Black Falcon
And why doesn't a IBM CPU and that other stuff make it closer to a mac (hardware-wise, obviously...)?

OB1
IBM also makes hardware for PCs. And what "other stuff" are you referring to? That's all you've got.

A Black Falcon
...incompatibility with X-Box games?

Look, of course it'll run some variant of an MS OS, but that doesn't mean the hardware won't be quite different.

OB1
So... because the hardware won't be the exact same and it won't be able to run X-Box games, it's Mac-like? :erm:

A Black Falcon
Well we will see in a few weeks. But can you think of a better characterization, based on what we know?

Great Rumbler
They should base the XBox Next on Amiga hardware.

OB1
Well we will see in a few weeks. But can you think of a better characterization, based on what we know?

Yes. It's still going to be a very PC-like console.

A Black Falcon
Just with an IBM CPU... does IBM even still MAKE Intel-style CPUs?

OB1
Who cares? Is a Mac like a GC because the same company makes its CPUs? That's retarded. ATI also makes video cards for Macs, so I guess that means that my PC is very Mac-like, right? :whatever:

A Black Falcon
A GC IS like a Mac, you know... hardware-wise...

OB1
It's as much like a PC as it is like a Mac.

A Black Falcon
And how so?

OB1
Let's see...

It has a CPU, a video card, and RAM. Three things both PCs and Macs have! Amazing, huh?

A Black Falcon
... that is the stupidest arguement of all time! When you say something is more like a Mac in hardware or a PC you're obviously just talking about the differences, not the similarities...

OB1
Yes this so-called argument is very stupid. Your whole argument is based off of the fact that the XB2 and GC use IBM CPUs. That's incredibly dumb.

A Black Falcon
And rumors. :)

Not the strongest arguement I'll admit, but you can't completely dismiss it...

OB1
There's no argument there!

A Black Falcon
arguement, as in point, as in issue, etc... not as in 'we are arguing over it'...

OB1
Yes that's what I meant. There's no point to what you're saying.

A Black Falcon
Then there is no point to what you are saying either...

OB1
My point is that you have no point!

A Black Falcon
And thus continuing what is by your own arguement a pointless discussion?

OB1
Precisely!

Great Rumbler
The point here is that you both have points that the other doesn't have a point and that the other's point is not a point, rather a non-point. Point. Point. Point. *points*

OB1
*dodges point*

Great Rumbler
:D

Dark Jaguar
*Points at Vulture*

*party battles Vulture*

Great Rumbler
*Great Rumbler casts "No Pants"* *Vulture flees*

big guy
*big guy comes running*

did someone just cast "no pants?"

Dark Jaguar
*charges 100 gil to cast protect on passers by far from town for a few hours*

*buys a house*

Great Rumbler
*Great Rumbler casts "Forclose" on DJ's house*

Dark Jaguar
*DJ doesn't know what a forclosure is, though DJ is aware of it's existance*

Great Rumbler
*Great Rumbler casts "Enlightenemt" on DJ* *DJ gains 3 intelligence*

DJ: So that's what it means!!

lazyfatbum
*lazyfatbum casts "Pick nose" and does so very well*

*lazyfatbum gains +2 to Repulsiveness (R Ability)*

*lazyfatbum loses -3 to Dignity (S Ability)*

Dammit

Great Rumbler
*Great Rumbler casts "Destroy Thread"* *Spell fizzles*

UltraMarioMan
*Casts Disco Dance* *Suddenly everyone is wearing polyester and doing the hustle*

Great Rumbler
Do the hustle! Woo!! *casts "Disco Lights*

A Black Falcon
Spells only fail if you get interrupted while casting them!

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*shoots GR with arrow so that spell fails*

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*casts Silence, 15' Radius, to stop the music*

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*is still playing BG2 with most of his free time*

Great Rumbler
*Casts "Resurrect" on self* *Casts "Dance Fever" on ABF*

A Black Falcon
You can't resurrect yourself when you're DEAD! :)

... Someone else has to do it.

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Unless your health is below -10, that is; at that point you hit permanant death... but don't worry, you can't be attacked when at impermanant death, so as long as the hit didn't go that low you're safe for the time being.

Great Rumbler
Look, I can do things like that, alright? I don't need your permission to resurrect myself, okay?! *Casts "Platform Shoes" on ABF*

Dark Jaguar
And besides all the RPG rules EVER MADE apply to this thread! So long as SOME RPG has done it before, do it here!

*automatic "makes no sense" schizophrenic class ability continues it's effects*

*equips one of those guitars that are like... double guitars... ya know? For +40 to attack power and +20% to accuracy, and +a smajillion to funk*

Great Rumbler
I have a +3/+3 Afro of Funk you can borrow.

Dark Jaguar
Yeah! Mix those stat systems!

My guitar thingy randomly casts "rock" though.

*casts Summon Kidney Stone on Beakman, from the show Beakman's world... with the giant rat...*

A Black Falcon
Have you ever played an RPG where a dead character can cast 'Resurrect' on themself? :)

... and my +3 Talking Sword... I'll make it a gift! How long until its stupid comments make you go insane...

Oh, and GR, you were right. Spells can fail, if your Intelligence is low enough...

Dark Jaguar
Yes I have :D. In Final Fantasy 7, there is a "final move" enhancement materia that lets you use whatever materia is linked to it as an automatic counter upon that character's death. While a final attack is nice enough, just attach the life materia and you automatically bring yourself back to life when you die. For that matter, attach Phoenix and you bring the whole party back and deal fire damage upon death :D. It only works as many times as it's level is at though (I think it's highest level is 4).

Also, you've played WC3, so you should know the Tauren hero has an auto ressurect ability. Not really an RPG though, but it's an RTS with RPG elements.

Great Rumbler
Ha! Take that, ABF!

Dark Jaguar
The solution however is to just kill him a few more times so the number of ressurects run out.

lazyfatbum
What about Auto Life and the Angel Ring!? It's all you need! GO GO FF TIT-TACS!

lazyfatbum
Oh and,

*casts 'Abnormally Stupid Replies for a Person his Age' on ABF*

Hmm... it had no effect... I wonder why... hmm....

Lemme try another one,

*casts 'Ignorant backtalk and slow thought process' on ABF*

No effect from that one either... hmm.....

Dark Jaguar
Also, the VERY last boss of FFX is ridiculously lacking in anything close to challenge, because all your characters infinitly auto revive.

A Black Falcon
Yes I have . In Final Fantasy 7, there is a "final move" enhancement materia that lets you use whatever materia is linked to it as an automatic counter upon that character's death. While a final attack is nice enough, just attach the life materia and you automatically bring yourself back to life when you die. For that matter, attach Phoenix and you bring the whole party back and deal fire damage upon death . It only works as many times as it's level is at though (I think it's highest level is 4).

Also, you've played WC3, so you should know the Tauren hero has an auto ressurect ability. Not really an RPG though, but it's an RTS with RPG elements.

WC3 is an RTS. That doesn't count. :) ... okay, so there is some games with auto-ressurect items. But I said spells, not items... :D Sure, it's a minor difference, but... I think I'm right in some respect. Auto-things might kick in but you can't cast spells after death. :)

I beat BG2. :( 2 1/2 weeks of 4-6 hours probably 6 days a week will do that, though... yeah, I got kind of addicted...

Great Rumbler
Look, ABF, you're wrong, okay? Stop whining about it just because I know what I'm doing and you're just a little newbie who still uses low-level weapons and armor and gets killed by the imps on the first level even though you spent all your money on healing items which didn't work in the first place because you were stupid enough to buy them from the village drunk who actually sold you some grass that he believed was a curative.

UltraMarioMan
*Attempts to cast Prophecy from Skies of Arcadia* *Remembers you need 4 people for that* *Swears loudly* *Casts 8675309 on Lazyfatbum*

Great Rumbler
*Casts "Summon Spam"* *Spam appears* Yay!

Dark Jaguar
ABF, regarding FF7, I was TALKING about magic. FF7's magic system, like all FF games, is somewhat unique. Rather than JUST spells, or maybe scrolls to learn them from, there is materia. The only way to cast magic is to channel it from said materia, using MP to do so. The final attack ressurection thing is certainly magic. BAM!

A Black Falcon
ABF, regarding FF7, I was TALKING about magic. FF7's magic system, like all FF games, is somewhat unique. Rather than JUST spells, or maybe scrolls to learn them from, there is materia. The only way to cast magic is to channel it from said materia, using MP to do so. The final attack ressurection thing is certainly magic. BAM!

Okay... but I still don't get how a dead character would use it on themselves... it kicks in automatically?

Great Rumbler
Yes, ABF! Have you not been listening?!

A Black Falcon
Fine, so there is one exception... oh joy, you sure showed me...

OB1
Hs eurs did!

Great Rumbler
Ws eurs did!

OB1
Ysah...

Great Rumbler
Ws ars ueing a escrst cods!!

OB1
Hs'll nsvsr bs able to figurs it out!!

Great Rumbler
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What?

OB1
It's working too good!

Great Rumbler
Actually, I did understand you. I just acted like I didn't because it would be funny.

OB1
GAEP!!!!

A Black Falcon
OOH!

Great Rumbler
Shazbot!

lazyfatbum
Insane, Water And Nipple Testicle, Anus Necrophiliac Yellow Octopus Nose Ethiopia, Transformer Orifice, Frankenstien Igloo Giraffe Urine Rancid Elvis, Tits Helicopter Isotope Shit, Orange Unicorn Transvestite.

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Great Rumbler
Well...I thought it made sense.

lazyfatbum
I was just wondering if I could hide a secret message really well.

I think it worked.

Great Rumbler
I got the secret message.

A Black Falcon
Like the brick PETA put in San Diego's new Petco Park! "Break Open Your Cold Ones! Toast The Padres! Enjoy This Championship Organization!" :)

This is true, BTW.

Great Rumbler
PETA is dumb.

Bo Jackson
Kids, PETA is great. Did you see their ads with those hot naked chicks? Hell yeah, boy! Bo would like to see lots more of that!