View Thread : Whoo! 2,009 post! (AKA: What is French? Debate)


alien space marine
This has been the longest ive been here without ticking you guys off.

If you counted all my previous accounts it would be probaily 5,650 somthing ?

:goron: :far-out:

<i>Edit: Just altered the title slightly to reflect whats happening later in the thread.
~EdenMaster</i>

Great Rumbler
*has nearly 10,000 posts*

alien space marine
Time well wasted!

Great Rumbler
Yep!! *has no social life, friends, ect.* :far-out:

A Black Falcon
Definitely time well wasted. :)

Fittisize
I haven't wasted nearly as much time here as the rest of you lot. Look how long I've been here compared to my post count. Man I'm so much cooler than all of you.

Great Rumbler
By my standards [the only ones that count, by the way] I'm way cooler than you because...because...I live in American and you live in Canada! Yeah! What are you gonna do about that, huh?!

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Plus, I have glasses. People with glasses are cool. *needs some shades*

A Black Falcon
Don't listen to them, it's cool to have lots of posts!

alien space marine
Plus, I have glasses. People with glasses are cool. *needs some shades*

Using my spy shades like James Bond, I found your secret identity and its not pretty!

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http://class2001.p5.org.uk/Albums/may/w1/geek.jpg

:lol: ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah ! :loopy:

Great Rumbler
Oh yeah? Well, I found your picture on the internet, ASM.

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/clankya/haha/forum-dork.jpg

EdenMaster
http://class2001.p5.org.uk/Albums/may/w1/geek.jpg

Is that guy in the background vomiting?

Dark Lord Neo
wow, some people post too much

A Black Falcon
Nah, some just don't post enough. :)

Great Rumbler
Everyone who's posted in this thread so far has over 2000 posts...except Fittisize. *laughs at Fittisize*

Sacred Jellybean
Here's Dork Lard Neo:

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~djc46/stfunewbie.jpg

Great Rumbler
Hahaha! :D

alien space marine
Atleast my glasses are bigger then yours!

Great Rumbler
Great Rumbler: http://class2001.p5.org.uk/Albums/may/w1/geek.jpg

alien space marine: http://home.hawaii.rr.com/clankya/haha/forum-dork.jpg

Dork Lard Neo: http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~djc46/stfunewbie.jpg

A Black Falcon: http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~lthomas/nerd.jpg

Sacred Jellybean: http://www.dsv.su.se/~mats-bjo/bean/b-nerd.jpg

Fittisize: http://www.d.kth.se/~d98-jas/jon_hugs_alyson.jpg

Nice.

Fittisize
Notice I'm the only one with a girl.

EdenMaster
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You realize she's on a computer screen right?

If you think that's close enough, remind me never to touch your monitor or keyboard.

:joystick:

Fittisize
Computer screen is more than what you have. :P

EdenMaster
Ooh, listen to thems high school insults fly! How nostalgic!

:banana:

Hey, ASM, how many accounts HAVE you have in the past? It used to be you'd have a new one every month. I looked up some of your old ones and they all say they have zero posts.

Fittisize
Ooh, listen to thems high school insults fly! How nostalgic!
Hahaha, and yet it's still all true. Besides you don't even have a dorky picture up there so STFU.

Sacred Jellybean
I'm clearly the most superior, being Mr. Bean and all.

*dances a Mr. Bean dance* :banana:

Great Rumbler
EdenMaster: http://www.infinetivity.com/~jsampson/rsoh/010907/rsoh08.jpg

A Black Falcon
Yeah, Mr. Bean isn't much of an insult... :)

Great Rumbler
It was too funny not to use. :)

EdenMaster
MST3K forever!

EdenMaster
http://tcforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=99&stc=1

Lest we forget who we truly are: retards :).

Fittisize
Hahaha, look at all you retards go.

EdenMaster
From left to right, we've got Sacred Jellybean, Private Hudson, WhiteFleck (who swears he's less purple in real life), Great Rumbler, Laser Link, and Weltall.

Oh and look, it's our group prom photo:

http://tcforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=618&stc=1

Dark Jaguar
And the hilarious thing is just how WELL GR's fit in that!

EdenMaster
And Cartoon Devils!

Yours is kind of funny, Dark Jaguar. With your avatar, it almost looks like something is censored :). Maybe that's why I'm screaming.

EdenMaster
Hey, does anyone remember that Sims family I started with a bunch of us? This snapshot was taken shortly after WhiteFleck died in a kitchen fire. I ended up building a huge shrine around his tombstone, too :). Last time I played as that house, Darunia moved out because he got into a fight with lazyfatbum (I'm serious!). Oh, and when ThunderAngel moved over here to America, I created a character for her, and had lazyfatbum marry her to bring her into the madness. I shoudl check in in on how that house is doing...

Dark Jaguar
Did I ever, at any point, repeatedly bang my head on the wall until there was just a bloody spot there?

alien space marine
Hey, ASM, how many accounts HAVE you have in the past? It used to be you'd have a new one every month. I looked up some of your old ones and they all say they have zero posts.

Cosmos Patrol had quite a few, The Main reason for some was that I couldnt find my login button on the old forum untill Dan Johnson Darklord555 showed up and figured it out.(Remeber back then I was stoned and spaced out having so many damned headaches if it had been now I probaily would have figured out how to turn you into sheep!)

Then the fact some Loser kept deleting my posting priviledges must have had lots of fun seeing me make new accounts have people get pissed and then delete them again, Must have had a good jerk off seeing me get fustrated everytime I made a post to complain about it the bum would delete it.
I was pissed off and had taken it out on lazyfatbum,Private hudson the obvious suspects eventually I said somthing I shouldnt of and I got baned!
Possibly for the best, It had taken me many tries before I realize how you guys think and what buttons I could and could not press.

Thankfully Weltall was forgiving enough to give me time to redeem myself.

Great Rumbler
http://tcforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=99&stc=1

Heh heh, that pic is so awesome! :D

EdenMaster
It's kind of scary how well everyones faces fit into that picture :D.

Well, except maybe Private Hudsons, with that white flash over his face.

Liitle Laser Link looks so cute, there :)

UltraMarioMan
I feel so left out!

A Black Falcon
97 posts? Should we care? :)

Great Rumbler
UltraMarioMan: http://www.thesupremediscocompany.co.uk/images/layout/images/discoGuy.jpg

EdenMaster
He's like a japanese Lesiure Suit Larry! Which is good!!

alien space marine
If we gave a cent a post,I would have 20 bucks and 25 cents!

I could get a 20 case of Budweiser and Ultra mario man could get a cookie.

EdenMaster
I could go buy a new PS2 or GC game!

UltraMarioMan
I like cookies! *Disco dances*

Great Rumbler
I'd have enough for like 4 DVDs!!

alien space marine
Maybe if we combined our posts could we get enough money to buy a small country?

Great Rumbler
Maybe we could raise enough to buy France, and then we could make it not suck.

EdenMaster
No amount of money could ever make France not suck.

Hey...maybe THAT'S where Darunia went! He went on a journey to discover why France sucks and to set things right! Godspeed, you crazy Goron!

Is it okay to say Godspeed to an atheist?

alien space marine
I was thinking one of them poor caribean countries!

We could pimp the tourist industry for Cash!

Put our faces on the stamps and build huge luxurious hotels titled Great Rumbler and A Black Falcon.

We could name it Tendo nation! Capital Tendocity.

Great Rumbler
Just like in Tropico!!

UltraMarioMan
Who would be our president?

Geno
I have little over 600 because, as ASM said in the Darunia thread, I'm known for going AWOL and coming back at random.

Great Rumbler
Who would be our president?

President? No way, man! This is a monarchy!

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We still get a Prime Minister, though.

EdenMaster
A government ruled by the people!

...that's not democracy or communism...

A government ruled by the 8 people who frequently post! I've got dibs on Secretary of Balloon Doggies! (who can name the reference?)

Fittisize
I get to be Prime Minister.

alien space marine
I get to be defense ministry! Coconut Bombs! *whistles*

Also get to do spy operations , I get a Tuxedo and a Walters PPK.Maybe even a BMW thats turns into a boat.

Geno
I'm not one of those eight, am I? So can I at least be the jester? Presidents have jesters, right? Right?

Great Rumbler
Name: Great Rumbler
Alias: I'm not telling you!
Age: I'm only 29, okay?!
Height: Like eight feet.
Weight: 130
Measurements: I don't really know...
Occupation[s]: Information Minister, Minister of Comics, Minister of Funk, Oil Czar, Police Chief, Secretary of Education, Chief Diplomat, Minister of Foreign Affairs [haha! "affairs"!]

EdenMaster
You can be the jolly little midget who brings us meat and ale.

Not a midget you say? We can change that if we decide to give you the job.

:samurai:

Geno
Yeah, I think being over 6' makes me more than a midget. I'm, like... three midgets. On each other's shoulders. Like a totem pole.

Hey, get those swords away from me! Seriously, you're freaking me out here... EdenMaster... nooooooo!!!!! Remember all those good times we had togetheeeeeeer? Fighting PSXers and Simbattlers--oh shyte. *runs*

Great Rumbler
You could be like...a really tall midget. Like a giant midget...you know?

EdenMaster
That's it! You could be a giant midget! We won't be needing these swords after all!

*hides one sword behind his back and waits for Geno to turn around*

Geno
*turns around* Hey, stop right there! I see you! I have eyes on the back of my head! *moves hair to reveal that I indeed have an extra set of eyes on the back of my head*

EdenMaster
Funky.

:eek:

Great Rumbler
Narly!!

Geno
Radical!

Great Rumbler
Bojacksome!!

EdenMaster
Tubular!

Geno
Cowabunga!

Great Rumbler
Righteous!

UltraMarioMan
Dibs on Secretary of Blowing Crap Up!

Geno
Can I at least be the Secretary of Kicking People I Don't Like in the Nuts? If not, then in the words of the great Dick Cheney, go fuck yourself.

Great Rumbler
*nominates Geno for Minister of Freedom Suppression and Surgeon General*

Geno
Oh well, at least I get to be something, right?

Great Rumbler
Oh alright, you can be the Minister of Kicking People That Say Bad Things About the Party.

alien space marine
Kicking someone in the balls will be the official greeting in Tendo nation,On that pretense I will make Geno the official ambassador to france.I Hope you tell Chirac he should ware a cup before he has a meeting with you.

EdenMaster
Silly canadian, French people don't have any balls! That's why all they ever do is surrender!

alien space marine
Silly canadian, French people don't have any balls! That's why all they ever do is surrender!

I am from french decent, Last time I checked I had gonads hanging below my Mr Bijinks.

You Also realize french is a language everywhere in the world?Europe,Africa,Asia,caribean,north america. I dont see how knowing or learning a language makes you cowardly automatically?Vietnam was a french colony and french was a official language and still is last time I checked they beat your sorry ass untill you quit. If you want to bash France call it France not french. If you said the English didnt have balls you might be including the U.S,Canada,Australia,All those dusty or tropical countries in such a statement not being so clear.

Great Rumbler
I think he means: French people = People from France

EdenMaster
I didn't say people who speak French are all cowards. I even know some loose French having taken three years of it in high school. As GR pointed out, I was referring to people from France itself.

People from Canada are Canadian.

People from Vietnam are Vietnamese.

People from America are American.

People from France are French.

Did you get all that?

alien space marine
I didn't say people who speak French are all cowards. I even know some loose French having taken three years of it in high school. As GR pointed out, I was referring to people from France itself.

People from Canada are Canadian.

People from Vietnam are Vietnamese.

People from America are American.

People from France are French.

Did you get all that?


I understand what you meant and I am not offended,But if you made that statement in canada anywhere in this country they dont think france they think the french canadians.

People from England could be called English , But when you use that term some could confuse it with the hole group of people using the language , But you could use British, Limey, Brit. When you use the term English and French here in canada we dont think of france or England but the actual languages, If you insulted the french with the statement "the french have no balls" here in canada people in my province and the acadiens people here would think your reffering to them and not france,Say the same statement here but at the English and its the same thing just reverse though it depends if you say it in english or if your known for speaking french mainly. If you said them spainish have no balls I am sure maybe a few not all of the Hispanic population might think your insulting them in the united states or if it was said at the africans should I even continue there?

In Canada the french speakers are refferd to as French Canadians, Weither they be Quebecois or Acadien like our freind Darunia.

Canadians can be called canucks and Americans can be called Yanks, People in France can be called franks infact that was the name of their curriency before they adopted the euro dollar.

If you still want to bash them ,Say french from France or Franks and maybe Francers just to be new and original.

I am not angry, I just misinterpruted what you meant, I hear simular statements from people in canada and the U.S ocasioanlly I know they dont mean just france they mean everyone who speaks it.

Geno
I knew immediately that he meant people from France. If someone said, "The English are snobs." I'd assume they're talking about people from England, not everyone who speaks English. On the other hand, if they said, "The English-speaking people are snobs." I'd be included in the stereotype. I don't think Mexicans and South Americans would be offended if you referred to the Spanish as cowards, though you are right that the black population would be offended if you said something negative about Africans, even if you were referring specifically to Africans from Africa.

alien space marine
I knew immediately that he meant people from France. If someone said, "The English are snobs." I'd assume they're talking about people from England, not everyone who speaks English. On the other hand, if they said, "The English-speaking people are snobs." I'd be included in the stereotype. I don't think Mexicans and South Americans would be offended if you referred to the Spanish as cowards, though you are right that the black population would be offended if you said something negative about Africans, even if you were referring specifically to Africans from Africa.

Your American , You dont have two official languages, In canada that issue is still pretty sensitive.

but going back to what Edenmaster said those Franks dont have balls,What the hell was with them in ww2? Why were they such pussies?Why did they treat their north american colonies like shit and leave them poor ?
Poor Napoleon the only frank who had balls but got cocky to bad France could have been a good country if it werent for water loo.

Fittisize
I didn't say people who speak French are all cowards. I even know some loose French having taken three years of it in high school. As GR pointed out, I was referring to people from France itself.

People from Canada are Canadian.

People from Vietnam are Vietnamese.

People from America are American.

People from France are French.

Did you get all that?
No. Whenever I see the word French I'm usually thinking about those from Quebec.

Geno
Spanish is starting to become an official language here, but I doubt we're going to start referring to our people as the English and the Spanish. We'll probably just classify the Spanish-speakers the way we always have: as wetba--I mean... Latinos or Hispanics. :D

EdenMaster
No. Whenever I see the word French I'm usually thinking about those from Quebec.

Then you're one kooky Canadian. People in Quebec, while they may <i>speak</i> French, are not <i>truly</i> French. They are still Canadian.

French people are from France, like the Coneheads.

Look, language has nothing to do with nationality. A Russian born child can grow up learning the German language, but he's still Russian. That's just the way it is.

Dark Jaguar
Pfft, don't drag your... Canadian issues into things. So one part of Canada doesn't want to be Canadian and thinks they are French... NO ONE CARES! It's just more crazy Canadian stuff, so when we talk about "The French", we mean the REAL French, the ones you should ALL be considering the French, not part of Canada! It's the CORRECT way to think!

Fittisize
Aaargh, they are French-Canadian. Their ancestors came here from France, and pretty much every single Canadian that I know will iimmediatly associate "French" with Quebec. It's a regional thing. Besides, the French (as in, Quebecois) don't like to be referred to as just "Canadian". They've done a lot of work to be recognized as a unique culture in Canada, and for that, French is the best term for them.

EdenMaster
Then, as you say, if they're trying to become a different culture, they can be French-Canadian. French, to most people, refers to people from France.

This has got to be, by far, the stupidest argument we've ever had here at TC. :D

Dark Jaguar
Indeed, stupid Canadians... I don't care how much work they did, they are still just Canadians, not "the French". French Canadian is about as far as it gets, but you can't erase Canadian from them, and honestly, I don't care HOW offended any of them get by that. I demand you tell them ALL in PERSON that I said that.

Fittisize
Yeah, well, screw you guys. In Canada it will always remain- French=Quebec, English=Every other province. And America=dumb. :p

alien space marine
Indeed, stupid Canadians... I don't care how much work they did, they are still just Canadians, not "the French". French Canadian is about as far as it gets, but you can't erase Canadian from them, and honestly, I don't care HOW offended any of them get by that. I demand you tell them ALL in PERSON that I said that.

African Americans, Hispanic Americans how is that any different? You make fun of their mother countries and regions like mexico or Africa they will be offended, When you say mexicans and south americans are lazy cowards the ones who are Hispanic americans will automatically assume your reffering to them too,In most cases its true. If you said the Chinese were cowardly scum and meant China without being specific , I am sure every person in china town U.S.A is gonna be offended.

I understand now that you meant france, I dont care or mind I know now you meant france , But I hear that statement many times and they dont even mean france, Some even are from the U.S.

This isnt stupid canadians flaping off!

In my town I see those kinds of slurs and grafiti on the walls, "Kill the french" " Go back to france" " Then you also see slurs in french agiast the english" , Before in the past people would get assaulted for speaking either french or english pending the nationality of the thug but even the sepratist goverment cracked down on that violence to keep the peace.If you knew canadian history you would know about the FLQ crisis which was like a near terrorist group in the 70's they killed a british deplomat after taking him hostage, Piere Trudeau had pretty well made the province on Marshal law imposing a curfew and thousands were arrested.

When Conan Obrian came to canada and started to bash and make fun of french canadians, Parliament was pissed , Its like inviting someone down in the U.S and give him a subsidy and have that person call the blacks niggers and use racist jokes to amuse his white audience.

In canada you cant make such a statement , I dont give a crap what you americans think how things go you dont know! America is your only dome of knowledge.

Lets drop this, It is pointless , Ive made my point clear and I know you didnt mean anyone accept france,I bashed france too, But it certainly could have been more tactful.

Next time you say french , I will assume you mean France,Bashing a country isnt racism not that it wont offend people. If you said the English I would have assumed England,But nobody reffers to them that way its old and outdated, You would probaily say Brit. Though if it was said here some would assume the english canadians if you were not saying it in english or was known as non english person. Interpretation of this issue is matter of were you live and who you are.

Great Rumbler
This has got to be, by far, the stupidest argument we've ever had here at TC.

Not even close.

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Actually that's all that I've got to say. Seriously, nothing else is going to be said in this post. Look, just stop reading because I've already typed as much as I'm going to for this post.

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It doesn't matter how long you keep reading I'm not saying anything else.

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Just go on will you?!

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Oh, alright. French-Canadian is the dumbest term I've ever heard, but I only said that because you wouldn't go away! Are you happy now?! Well, you better be.

Dark Jaguar
There is a lot of violence over this? How stupid can those people be? Really, it's a non-issue to the rest of the world! Why do they frickin' care so much as to get VIOLENT over it? Get a life!

EdenMaster
In canada you cant make such a statement , I dont give a crap what you americans think how things go you dont know! America is your only dome of knowledge.

Lets drop this, It is pointless , Ive made my point clear and I know you didnt mean anyone accept france,I bashed france too, But it certainly could have been more tactful.

All right, I'll drop it, because this is certainly the stupidest debate I've seen here.

I'll just end by saying that we're not being closed-minded Americans by not including the people of Quebec as being French. There is NO WAY ON EARTH that someone born in CANADA can be FRENCH. THEY'RE CANADIAN. End of story.

Now then.

2009 posts! Woo!

alien space marine
All right, I'll drop it, because this is certainly the stupidest debate I've seen here.

I'll just end by saying that we're not being closed-minded Americans by not including the people of Quebec as being French. There is NO WAY ON EARTH that someone born in CANADA can be FRENCH. THEY'RE CANADIAN. End of story.

Now then.

2009 posts! Woo!

I guess I speak Canadese! I am not french cause Edenmaster says so! Edenmaster is like god he knows everything , Builds a golden alter to begin worship of Edenmaster.

Great Rumbler
You're not French because you were born in Canada, not France. Duh.

Fittisize
How hard is it to understand that French speakers in Canada are called French? Is it that difficult for you Americans to realize that people in some countries speak differently than people in other countries? I mean, I know that it's pretty strange for Americans to not understand a culture other than their own and to not be close-minded about every single other country in the world. Oh wait...

Great Rumbler
How hard is it to understand that French speakers in Canada are called French?

I could say that my donkey is a camel, but that doesn't make it anything other than a donkey. A donkey is a donkey and people born in Canada are Canadians. It doesn't have anything to do with culture.

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Argh!! This debate is so dumb!!

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Sooo...2009 posts, right?

Fittisize
Indians in Canada prefer to be called "First Nation", not Indians, Natives, Native-Canadians, Wagon-Burners, or any thing else. Do you dispute that, saying that they can't be called First-Nation, but Canadians, because they live and were born in Canada? Canada has an official policy of multi-culturalism, and calling people by their respective titles, titles that they have chosen, helps preserve that policy.

I can say that you are gay. That can mean one of two things-either you are happy and euphoric, or you are attracted to men. In Canada, if somebody is French, then that can also mean two things- either you are from Quebec, or you are from France.

alien space marine
I could say that my donkey is a camel, but that doesn't make it anything other than a donkey. A donkey is a donkey and people born in Canada are Canadians. It doesn't have anything to do with culture.

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Must get high and jerk to my dog

Were not talking about Donkeys and Camels!

The U.S is about imigrants, people still attache themselves to their heritage and mother lands, America never existed untill england colonized it, Then you became independant fine call yourselves whatever you want but your not a specific race or language just a community of groups sharing one house.

People in Iraq concider themselves arabs and muslims not Iraqis if you said the arabs did this and that you would be including them and all islamic and arabic nations.If you said iraqis you would be specifically refering to them individualy the same way you reffer to a specific state.Those Borders and countries were all created by england and foreign invaders, At one time they were all part of united empires stretching far everywhere.

In canada's case New France Aka Quebec and also Acadia were conquered by the brittish forces , Acadia was easily taken first since it waisnt officially part of the french empire and was kind of a private colony of french people that didnt have a large army, The Acadians had a seperate distinct culture for 200 years infact Acadia existed longer then Canada has in a time frame, But even despite that the acadians still concider themselves french and spoke the language. Then the brits from new England or shall we say colonial forces came in taken the place over, demanded the acadian french people swear loyalty to the crown of England ,they would have agreed to pay taxes but not take up arms agaist their motherland in france,They were expeled and they were sent everywhere all over north america had their farms and lands striped away after generations of maintaining it.But a large group founded New Orleans in Lousiana.

Quebec also fell , But later and not without a Fucking long war, But the Mohawk Iroquois indians and France stupidity caught up with us. The English didnt really give a crap about the french population untill after confederation day when we decided to have a democracy and call ourselves canadians and have freedom and equal rights. Quebec was determined to have its own leaders and be distingished confederation was kind of forced on them, The acadians returned from exile to find that the english and brittish colonist had swarmed the place, They are more intergrated then quebec with canada, Everywhere you go in new brunswick you will see ass loads of Acadian flags and Acadian historical sites and hole towns populated by french Acadians.

http://www.landrystuff.com/acadie-th.jpg

This Flag is as common as grass in new brunswick , Now can you see why french canadians still concider themselves distinctly french like french toast and french dressing, can you see now why some Would be offended by such a comment?!! These people are still demanding queen Elizabeth apologize for what happend hundreds of years ago.

What makes our history different is that canada was formed on both french and english colonies and terroritories, America was all brit colonies or imigrants who joined and asimulated just the same. What is Canadian? Thats somthing the hole country cant really come to one conclusion on, But the only common thing is we are all living in this community together.The very word Canada is based off the aboriginal word Kinada(?) which basically means village or community.

New Brunswick hosted the francophone french summit, Every french ass came to canada in that province,we lived in a small 150,000 town called moncton and we had deplomats from freaking africa and vietnam showing up much less Mr Jacque Chirac president of France taking a sofa. Mr Chirac gave his blessing to the Acadians and told them to live long and prosper without the Vulcan hand thing. The Highlights the president of Congo punched a guy in the face and was held in jail but released cause of deplomatic immunity the next year he was asasinated in his country.



Sorry for the fucking novel, but its just so fun !

EdenMaster
I guess I speak Canadese! I am not french cause Edenmaster says so! Edenmaster is like god he knows everything , Builds a golden alter to begin worship of Edenmaster.

It's about time someone built me a golden altar. I've been waiting forever.

You guys are taking this so seriously it's almost funny. ASM, I'll break it down for you, okay? Speaking French does not MAKE you French. You're Canadian, and you speak French.

Oh, and I don't know everything, not nearly. I just have common sense.

How hard is it to understand that French speakers in Canada are called French? Is it that difficult for you Americans to realize that people in some countries speak differently than people in other countries? I mean, I know that it's pretty strange for Americans to not understand a culture other than their own and to not be close-minded about every single other country in the world. Oh wait...

Ah, yes, and WE'RE the bad guys for labeling together a group of people under one moniker. You sure showed us, boy.

I'm going to say this as clearly as I can so it's not misinterpreted again:

*ahem*

LANGUAGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NATIONALITY!

*cough*

Okay, got it? Was that too vague? If you need me to, I'll record a sound file and play it repeatedly in this thread. I don't care if you know every friggen language in the world, that doesn't make you part of every country in the world. If someone born in France learns 10 different languages, that person is still French.

Why won't this stupid, stupid debate die??

Dark Jaguar
I don't care about this any more, people are actually KILLING EACH OTHER over this stupid Quebec thing! What is WRONG with them? Defend yourself, so I can slap THAT right out of your hand!

EdenMaster
I'm moving this to Debate. I'll keep this one open, but any more fighting about this stupid topic can be done there.

alien space marine
I already agreed that I understood you meant France now that you made it clear. Next time you say it I'll understand and wont have the general view of all the hole planet, But if you were Canadian like me and Fitisize and Neo you wouldnt be thinking that way, Live in Quebec for a year and your view would change. The term french doesnt = France nore does English =England maybe they did at one time but its long outdated.

If you lived in france but didnt speak french or was ethnicaly french, Are you still french? You went to spain and didnt speak spainish or was a latino at all are you still spainish? They might say I live or I am from spain.
Do you not get it?

Bash france without stating specifically france and saying french instead someone might even punch you here pending which city or area your standing in. You went to china town and said the chinese were cowards who surrender they might give you a slaping too.

French isnt just a language or nationality it is a ethnicity, If I was hispanic I wouldnt call myself just plain canadian, Cause I am not just talking spainish am I am ethnicaly Hispanic.

Whats tricky is that France is were the race and language originated,Unlike Latin america they can call themselves latinos or hispanics they dont have to be known as Spainish, but if your living in canada your ancestry goes back to france and you speak francais and live in quebec or are a Acadian you are french there is no other word to describe you.When you say french there is no clear distinction between nationalities.With the sepratist movement do you not think some dont even concider themselves canadian?

Do you understand my point?

Truth is its fvcking complicated lets stop and leave it at that.

Dark Jaguar
If you lived in France and you didn't speak french, YES, YOU WOULD TOTALLY STILL BE FRENCH! That doesn't even make sense!

Fittisize
REPOST!

Edenmaster-refer to this:


In Canada, if somebody is French, then that can also mean two things- either you are from Quebec, or you are from France.If you are a Canadian and speak French and live in Quebec, then you will fall under the title "French". It has nothing to do with the country of France, it has to do with Quebec. So why not just call them "Quebecois"? I don't know. I don't know why the people in Quebec decided to call themselves French, but I assure you, it's not because they wish they were from France, as they have tried to distance themselves from France. It's simply a word that they have adopted to distinguish themselves from the rest of Canada, and they have given it a new meaning.

I don't care about this any more, people are actually KILLING EACH OTHER over this stupid Quebec thing! What is WRONG with them? Defend yourself, so I can slap THAT right out of your hand!*were. People WERE killing each other over this. The closest thing to a terrorist organization in Canada, the Front de Liberation du Quebec (FLQ), a group composed of radical separitists wanting Quebec to become its own nation. Unhappy with the way the French are treated within Canada, as well as in their own province, they decided to revolt against the rest of Canada in attempts to make Quebec a better province for the French. Many different events happened during the FLQ crisis, including the kidnapping of British Trade Commissioner James Cross and the kindapping of the Minister of Labour and Vice-Premeir (in Quebec) Pierre Laporte. Martial law under the War Measures Act was imposed for the first time since WWII, and over 500 people were arrested during this. Pierre Laporte was killed by the FLQ, and James Cross was released after 60 says in hostage. Every single terrorist in the FLQ was flown to Cuba under the approval of Fidel Castro (who was a close friend of the Canadian PM at the time, Pierre Trudeau).

Year this happened-October of 1970
Number of terrorists that were flown to Cuba-5
Total number of deaths-1.

This incident proved to be the most serious terrorist attack in Canada's history and the response by the government still sparks controversy. However, at the time, opinion polls showed overwhelming support in Quebec for the War Measures Act. A few critics believed that Prime Minister Trudeau was being excessive in using the War Measures Act to suspend civil liberties and that the precedent set by this incident was dangerous. The size of the FLQ organization and the number of sympathizers in the public was not known. As such, the authorities had no real idea of the scale of terrorist events that could happen. Also, for years, the wording of the FLQ communiqués strove to present an image of a powerful organization spread secretly throughout all milieus of society. Supporters of the government's strong measures also point out that there have been no equivalent terrorist incidents since 1970 and it might well be because the vigorous response by the government has been a deterrent. (from Wikipedia)

alien space marine
My poor 2009 post thread!

Damn it no more wierd ideas of kicking foreign leaders in the balls.

A Black Falcon
French-Canadians are French-Canadians... but I could see calling them French. Though as this thread proves, that can be confusing. :D

Great Rumbler
Just call them "Canadians" and be done with it.

A Black Falcon
Don't call them that in Quebec, though... :)

alien space marine
Napoleon was from Belgium, But he is conciderd french?

A Black Falcon
He was from France. Corsica was part of France at the time.

alien space marine
I stand to be corrected.

Great Rumbler
You certaintly do.

A Black Falcon
He was kind of not French, though, because the Corsicans (it's an island in the Meditteranean, btw) didn't like the French that much really and had been quite unhappy under French rule...

Dark Lord Neo
French Canadians consider themselves to be French Canadian, and that's what they are, because that's what they choose to identify themselves as.
I know some people who moved here from the US, and there youngest kid was born here, but he still considers himself to be American, because that's what his heritage is. Does the fact that he wasn't born in the US make him any less American?

Geno
Zere's no Canada like French Canada,
It's ze best Canada in ze land.
And ze other Canada is hardly Canada,
If you lived here for a day, you'd understand!

Great Rumbler
Neat.