View Thread : Yankees Suck: Yes, or Yes?


Darunia
We all know they do. They suck. They're the Evil Empire. Let's discuss this.

Dark Jaguar
Come on, New York's a fine city. Besides, the rest of the world refers to the entire US as yankees.

DMiller
New York is a fun city, but it does smell, and I attribute that smell to the evil stench of the Yankees. Either that or the general crappiness of the Mets.

Darunia
I'm not bashing New York, I'm not even bashing the Mets! This is about the MLB franchise, the Yankees! They suck---thats what we're discussing.

Undertow
It's a Boston Red Sox fan thing, Ben. They wouldn't understand. ;)

Fittisize
You know who really sucks? Bandwagoners. Also, both the Red Sox and Yankees. Too bad there aren't more than just those two teams in the MLB. Sure seems that way, anyways.

Dark Jaguar
Oh, Basaballu, never mind.

Great Rumbler
Yankees suck. End o' discussion.

Ryan
I dunno about baseball.

But here's a list of football teams I hate.

1. BALTIMORE RAVENS: They are evil ratbirds, 53 felons wearing pads. And they beat us today. Badly. :(
2. CLEVELAND BROWNS: See above... though they aren't nearly as good.
3. DALLAS COWBOYS: Even though I was rooting for them today, this team is a bandwagon-magnet
4. TENNESSEE TITANS: They beat my team too often. How can they still be so good even with so few good players?
5. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: These guys are either paying off NFL Brass, or they use evil magic, because they get so, so many lucky draws. Their game against Indy is proof. Should have never won a Super Bowl, much less two. I still hope Tom Brady's neck gets broken.

alien space marine
Yankee Doodle! :gay:

Fittisize
4. TENNESSEE TITANS: They beat my team too often. How can they still be so good even with so few good players?

It's called chemistry. Maybe the Steelers should think about working on that.

DMiller
Same reason the Marlins won the World Series last year. They didn't have the best team around, but they had the best team chemistry.

A Black Falcon
Yes, the Yankees are evil. No question about it. Why can't they LOSE for once? :(

OB1
Man... there is so much hate in the world of sports among the fans. Incredible.

Ryan
It's called chemistry. Maybe the Steelers should think about working on that.
We really should. They looked pretty rotten yesterday.

OB1
Oooh, snap!!


Or was that serious? Did they win or lose?

Darunia
Did you hear about that bill that congress just passed and President Bush just signed into law; the law that officially recognizes that the Yankees Suck Cocks in Hell? Because they do. They're all smug assholes. Let's go bomb Yankee Stadium.

A Black Falcon
I care more about beating the Yankees than winning the World Series, I think... right now anyway. And finishing second and getting the wild card doesn't count (even if we were to play them and beat them in the ALCS). That's the cheap way out.

Ryan
Oooh, snap!!


Or was that serious? Did they win or lose?
The Steelers got beaten like Whitney Houston.

Darunia
Well, ABF, I dunno; I mean despite this horrible streak we're on now (3L), we still have an almost certain hand on the wild card. That's all that REALLY matters. The chances of us nabbing the Eastern pennant are fading away ever-so-slowly. They're magnificent losing streak (22-0 to the Indians!!) is over, and our magnificent winning streak (22 wins out of 25) is dead as well. We can only hope for the wild card.

OB1
So why are the Yankees so evil?

Great Rumbler
They have an unholy pact with Satan.

OB1
Is it because they're really good and beat your guys' favorite teams all of the time or something?

Great Rumbler
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Yes.

OB1
.... I see. So it's kind of like how Nintendo fanboys hate Sony because they're doing better than Nintendo is?

Great Rumbler
That, AND they have an unholy pact with Satan. Plus I heard that they ritualistically kill a fuzzy bunny rabbit before each to help ensure their victory.

OB1
So basically you're all just a bunch of sore losers?


Just wonderin'. :)

Great Rumbler
Seriously, that's what they do before each game.

OB1
Arthur: ....

Fittisize
It's because they're all jealous. The Yankees are the most popular sports team out of all the four major North American sports, by far, and that is because they win so often. Fans of teams like the Red Sox which always lose get jealous of all the talent and popularity their "rivals" have, and it's never enough for just their team to fail, and leave it at that. Others have to as well.

Dark Jaguar
Apparently it's wrong to amass all the most powerful units in the entire game for yourself in order to win. I guess I shouldn't be using Mewtwo or any of the other legendary Pokemon, because talent=cheap now.

A Black Falcon
Well, ABF, I dunno; I mean despite this horrible streak we're on now (3L), we still have an almost certain hand on the wild card. That's all that REALLY matters. The chances of us nabbing the Eastern pennant are fading away ever-so-slowly. They're magnificent losing streak (22-0 to the Indians!!) is over, and our magnificent winning streak (22 wins out of 25) is dead as well. We can only hope for the wild card.

I know we get into the playoffs with the Wild Card the same as if we had won, but that doesn't mean that I have to like it! :) Really, it feels cheap to get in in second place... but that's just what I think.


The Yankees are indeed the most popular team in sports. They are also the most hated, though, you know. They have so much money that they can afford to pay such a ridiculously high salary... tens of millions of dollars higher than number two... it just isn't fair! So they always win and we always lose... it stinks.

OB1
What does paying them tons of money have to do with anything? Are all of the good players in baseball on the Yankees or something?

Great Rumbler
Most of them.

OB1
So there are only a couple dozen good players in the MLB?

Darunia
Is it because they're really good and beat your guys' favorite teams all of the time or something?

What part of PACT WITH SATAN don't you understand? If there were salary caps, they'd just be a regular team---but its because they have such a big budget year after year that they keep clinching the best players every time---so they'll keep on winning. It's not even remotely fair; there are so many teams who have to TRY AND WIN with only regular players---sometimes a few of us get lucky with players like Curt Shilling and Manny Ramirez. How long before they Yankees buy them off eludes me.

OB1
So basically it's kind of how the U.S. basketball team reigned supreme in the Olympics for so many decades? They're evil because they're more talented?

Ah but this past olympics showed that money isn't everything, and that the rest of the world has caught up to us in terms of talent. The U.S. didn't even get the bronze, did they? So sad...

Ryan
What part of PACT WITH SATAN don't you understand?

Why you, of all people, would suggest such a thing is possible :D

Great Rumbler
They're evil because they're more talented?

They're evil because they have a vast amount of money that they use to buy players that are talented.

OB1
Well Nintendo has money to hire lots of talented developers, more than anyone else. Does that make them evil?

Fittisize
No. Nintendo is definetly not evil. For some reason, nobody can understand that this is a business. You gotta spend money to make money, and buying players like A-Rod will give the Yankees a great deal of popularity. Also, every time a team makes the playoffs, they make a lot of money from merchandise and raised ticket prices. If buying the best players in the game will give a team a playoff berth, then there isn't much other teams can do about that, except build on their farm teams and become contenders themselves. Case in point, the Minnesota Twins, and the NHL's Ottawa Senators. Being a big fan of a small-market team myself, I really hate it when all the best players are dealt to teams with endless pockets by the time their contract is up. Examples, NL-Cy Young winner Pedro Martinez to the Red $ox, Javiar Vasquez to the Yankees, and Vladimir Guerrero (who I still consider an Expo) going to the Angles.

Red Sox fans disgust me, as well as any baseball fan who despises the Yankees on the sole basis of their payroll. Seeing as how they are Red Sox fans the most often, the vast majority of them are hypocrites. One look at the Red Sox GIGANTIC payroll, as well as players bought in much the same way that Yankees players are (one is quick to forget that many Yankees stars, such as Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, and Mariano Rivera have spent their entire careers with the Yankeers organization) only proves that they are a bunch of sore losers who can't blame themselves for losing, but only the Yankees and all their money. $125, 000, 000 just isn't enough to win a World Series on, I guess. Yeah, try telling that to Florida.

Great Rumbler
Rangers just swept the Athletics.

World Series = Rangers vs. Yankees. I certianly hope so.

Yankees suck!

Darunia
*Darunia elbows GR*

You mean Rangers vs. Red Sox. That's what you meant to say---

A Black Falcon
Uh... Rangers vs. Yankees would only be the ALCS (or ALDS), not the World Series, given that they are in the same league...

What am I hoping for? For the stupid A's to lose. But I don't like the Angels or Rangers at all either, so really I'm just hoping for whoever wins the AL West to lose... I like the Twins though and it's great to see them doing well. As for the NL, I thought that Atlanta would do it again and they did, despite so many detractors... I'm hoping the Giants get into the playoffs. And the Cubs, if the Giants can get ahead of the Dodgers (I hope they do!) -- I don't like Texas and the Astros are right behind them. :)

Darunia
If it can't be the Sox who win, I'd rather it were anyone BUT THE YANKEES---or the Cubs. They're cursed too, I hear.

DMiller
Curse, what curse?

<img src=http://www.pbrla.com/HUMOR/102203_goat.gif>

Great Rumbler
Uh... Rangers vs. Yankees would only be the ALCS (or ALDS), not the World Series, given that they are in the same league...

Well, whatever.

You mean Rangers vs. Red Sox. That's what you meant to say---

Okay.

Darunia
I heard that the Cubs are also 'cursed' because they wouldn't let a goat into Wrigley Field in the '45 World Series; or something like that, and it was a good-luck goat, and they've sucked horribly ever since--never been back to a World Series, let alone won one.

A Black Falcon
The Cubs haven't won since 1908 and haven't even BEEN in the Series since ... the '45 maybe? So I'd say their curse goes back well before 1945...

DMiller
For some reason that picture I posted didn't work, but it was a pic of the goat and his owner. It the 1945 series that the goat was brought to by Bill Sianis, and the Cubs haven't been back to the World Series since then, and they haven't won the Series since 1908. There is a bar named after the goat called the Billy Goat Tavern which was the basis for the"Cheezborger, Cheezborger" sketches from the early days of SNL.

A Black Falcon
At least the Red Sox get there sometimes. :)

Darunia
Yea, that's true, ABF...but is it REALLY better to get there sometimes only to always be forced out in some traumatic way? It's almost better to just never get that far, to never get one's hopes up just to have them dashed.

I've met two people with Mets hats on in the last week; neither liked the Yankess. One all-out hated the Yankees.

Ryan
Look, no one was cursed the way the Buffalo Bills were.

Except maybe the Philadelphia Eagles, but in a lesser way.

DMiller
The Bills curse only lasted a few years, though. We are talking about almost 100 years of futility with the Red Sox and Cubs.

Darunia
Man--we totally RAPED the Yankees Sunday!! :clap:

Ryan
The Bills curse never ended. They have descended from perpetual bridesmaids to a total existence of suckage, with only the somewhat-bright days of Flutie-Mania in-between.

Let's also not forget that the Arizona Cardinals have never won a championship in almost 105 years of existence. How's THAT for futility?

A Black Falcon
Four straight wins, 2 1/2 games back with five games left... must they torture us so?

OB1
Bo Jackson is so cool.

Darunia
Yea the Eastern Division is just about over now. They won 2 tonight in a double-header; we dropped one to Tampa Bay. It's not IMPOSSIBLE, but it's bloody goddamn unlikely.

Darunia
The Expo's logo---what the hell is it, it looks like a big "JL"...whats that supposed to mean?

Fittisize
The red part is an E for Expos, the blue part a B for baseball, all made too look like an M for Montreal.

On a sad note, I just finished watching a marathon of a baseball game, which included an hour of Expos players, past and present talking about their favourite moments, and a history of the Montreal Expos. After the game all the players took a final bow, to a standing ovation of tear-shedding fans (both at the stadium and at home, as well as the players on the field). The final game the the Expos will ever play in Montreal. It feels like I've lost a family member. I don't think that I can watch baseball anymore. Not after what the Expos and myself (and many other fans) went through watching Montreal over the years.

Great Rumbler
Well, it looks like the Rangers blew their chance to make the playoffs...

DMiller
It's over. The Cubs are doomed. If the Cubs can't beat the Reds and the Mets how can they hope to beat the Braves this weekend? I hate the Cubs with all of my soul.

Darunia
The faults of the Expos, Rangers and the Cubs are not their own---ITS THE YANKEES' FAULT! Let's get 'em!!

Great Rumbler
YEAH, GET 'EM!!!

Fittisize
The bell tolls on the Expos...
AU REVOIR
It was a sad, sad day for baseball fans in Montreal. The league, after dragging its heels for years, finally announced Wednesday that the Expos franchise would no longer play in Montreal after this season. And that meant they'd no longer be playing in Montreal after Wednesday, their last home game of the season.
The 9-1 loss to the Marlins was a side-note to the 31,395 in attendance at Olympic Stadium, which rarely sees more than a few thousand people on game day. But the sadness was plainly written on so many of their faces as they waved goodbye to the franchise that has given them 35 years of major-league baseball; 35 years of memories.

From its early days at Jarry Park to its final game at Olympic Stadium, the Expos organization produced some truly great players. Hall-of-fame catcher Gary Carter started and ended his career there; Tim Raines emerged as one of the all-time greatest base-stealers with the Expos; outfielder Andre Dawson was a three-time all-star with the Expos and third baseman Tim Wallach was a five-time Expos all-star; Canada's all-time best hitter, Larry Walker came into his own in Montreal; one of the greatest pitchers of all time, Randy Johnson, originally came up as an Expo; and then there's Vladimir Guerrero who may be the best of them all. And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

The Expos only made the postseason once, in the strike-shortened 1981 season, but were ousted in the first round of a makeshift playoff schedule by the Dodgers on an infamous Rick Monday home run. Again, in 1994, a strike spoiled the Expos' fun, as they were the best team in baseball when the strike ended the season and the postseason was canceled. "Fool me once," said Expos fans as they decided in droves that they wouldn't let baseball and its labor troubles toy with their emotions anymore. So, understandably, most Montreal baseball fans stopped coming to the park.

It will undoubtedly be asked, why didn't the extra 20,000 people who came to the park Wednesday night come every other night? But the answer surely is that many among those were the disillusioned, returning to celebrate what baseball once was to them. For them, baseball in Montreal already ended 10 years ago when they were robbed of their dream season by stubborn players and owners.

At around 10:00pm ET, outfielder Terrmel Sledge popped out to current Marlins infielder and ex-Expo Mike Mordecai to end the game and turn out the lights on Olympic Stadium as a major-league baseball park. In the end, it's the best thing for this lost and neglected franchise to relocate, but that's no consolation to the thousands of diehard Expos fans that, believe it or not, do exist in Montreal.

But Montreal baseball fans only need look to the city getting their franchise, Washington, D.C., for a faint sense of hope. After all, the city has lost not one but two major-league franchises in the past. It took D.C. 33 years to get baseball back. So, who knows, it may take a few decades, but the door may not be entirely closed on major-league baseball in Montreal.

A Black Falcon
The red part is an E for Expos, the blue part a B for baseball, all made too look like an M for Montreal.

Huh. I've been wondering about that for years... what is it, elb? jb? jllo? Never thought of that one... it actually makes sense, too! Though the logo is still quite confusing.


Poor Expos... I liked them too. It's really sad to see what could have been a great team and baseball town be destroyed like that...

Darunia
Yea, I like the Expos---its one of those teams that I wouldn't mind even if the Sox lost to, because I just pity them...like the Devil Rays. I didn't mind their beating us 9-4 last night at all. The YANKEES, ON THE OTHER HAND...


*Retreats into the Angry Dome*