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Very, very interesting, and the data is pretty hard to ignore.
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*looks at thread title*
*immediately notes that it's some idiotic right-wing denial piece trying to pretend that reality is false, so they can continue on their quest to destroy the world even faster*
*shudders in disgust and moves on, knowing that global warming is probably (barring something even worse happening) the greatest challenge humanity will face in the next century at least*

I watched Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth in January, and it's an incredible film, with absolutely inarguable proof of what is going on. The world IS warming. This is a fact, and the consequences are at best bad, and at worst disasterous.

I'd never heard of this program, but the Wikipedia article does a good job of saying how it's wrong...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gr...and_criticis m
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Al Gore is a hypocrite.

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Al Gore’s Personal Energy Use Is His Own “Inconvenient Truth”
Gore’s home uses more than 20 times the national average

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

That said, I haven't gotten around to seeing An Inconvenient Truth, but I wouldn't be surprised if its credibility can be called into question. Most experts reportedly agree that global warming is anthropogenic (caused by man), but there seems to be a reasonable amount of information out there that debunk the myth. I'm noncommittal to the issue now, but when I research more of it, I'll take a stance. I'll check out this link when I have more time and am not procrastinating studying for finals (so I'm procrastinating more procrastination, so I don't procrastinate as much now... or something).

It's a very polarized and politicized issue, and I don't think you can label all of it as evil right-wingers embracing ignorance.
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My stance on climate change is not one of denial, the more I research it, but it's pretty undeniable that a man like Gore has a political agenda a mile long behind his overblown disaster flick, a movie which showcases all of the worst possible scenarios and paints them as not only likely, but completely our fault. Which is nonsense. We are a factor, but we're not the only factor, and I don't even believe we're a very major one, and the left-wing nutcases like Gore only really hurt efforts to help by making this such a political issue, and a consipiracy theory to boot; the evil capitalists are really Captain Planet villains who want to destroy the world!!!!! Because a dead world is worth money or something, I guess. I can think of no other way such a stance makes sense.

Oh yeah, it's also well known that Gore uses a Lear Jet for ferrying purposes, and there really aren't many vehicles on earth that are less fuel-efficient. Total hypocrite.
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Al Gore is a hypocrite.

Not true. Gore buys carbon footprint offsets to compensate for the amount of energy his house uses.

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That said, I haven't gotten around to seeing An Inconvenient Truth, but I wouldn't be surprised if its credibility can be called into question. Most experts reportedly agree that global warming is anthropogenic (caused by man), but there seems to be a reasonable amount of information out there that debunk the myth. I'm noncommittal to the issue now, but when I research more of it, I'll take a stance. I'll check out this link when I have more time and am not procrastinating studying for finals (so I'm procrastinating more procrastination, so I don't procrastinate as much now... or something).

It's a very polarized and politicized issue, and I don't think you can label all of it as evil right-wingers embracing ignorance.

Watch the movie first, before you say anything negative about it... this is Al Gore, not some random fearmonger, and he has been involved in global warming issues for a long time now.
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My stance on climate change is not one of denial, the more I research it, but it's pretty undeniable that a man like Gore has a political agenda a mile long behind his overblown disaster flick, a movie which showcases all of the worst possible scenarios and paints them as not only likely, but completely our fault. Which is nonsense.

It's not nonsense. It's fact, and it's almost certainly mostly or entirely humanity's fault.

Of course, it isn't strictly all new. In fact, one of the largest changes in the Earth's climate ever began at the time that agriculture began to come into wide-scale use. What we are doing now is just doing things worse, and faster, than ever before.

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the evil capitalists are really Captain Planet villains who want to destroy the world!!!!! Because a dead world is worth money or something, I guess. I can think of no other way such a stance makes sense.

No, of course not. They simply care about money and only money, and don't think or care about the consequences of their actions. After all, they tell themselves, nothing is probably going to happen, and even if it does it'll probably be in a long time, after I'm dead, right?

Forcing people to THINK about the consequences of what they do is the point, and then moving from that to getting them to think about what they can do to change is the next step. It does not mean the end of capitalism or any of that paranoid idiocy... it simply means doing things differently than we are now.

And as for the plane thing, well, I refer you back to carbon offsets. You either don't know about them or willfully ignore it in order to pretend that Gore is a hypocrite he isn't.
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Not true. Gore buys carbon footprint offsets to compensate for the amount of energy his house uses.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/26...onds-to-drudge/

Alright, that sheds a bit of light on the issue (no pun intended). He may compensate by paying for more energy, but if the problem were more urgent, he would find a way around high-class living. If Gore's jet emits greenhouse gases inefficiently, then why can't he fly by first-class? Still, good to hear that he's not so blatantly hypocritical about it. Reading about his energy-consumption was disconcerting.
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Watch the movie first, before you say anything negative about it... this is Al Gore, not some random fearmonger, and he has been involved in global warming issues for a long time now.

I haven't and can't say anything negative about the film's actual content, but I can gain a reluctant impression based on the source and what I've heard about the film.
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I think the fact that Al Gore isn't running for President in 2008 shows how committed he is to the global warming issue. If he didn't care that much about it he could of used the success of his movie to promote a run, but he has said that he wouldn't be able to focus on global warming as much if he were to run for President again. Now I'll be the first to criticize him if he changes this stance, but I think it's great to see a politician so involved in a particular issue. Yes, An Inconvenient Truth did paint a worst-case scenario, but even if global warming isn't totally our fault it does appear that we are a major cause so we should be held accountable.
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Watch the movie first, before you say anything negative about it... this is Al Gore, not some random fearmonger, and he has been involved in global warming issues for a long time now.

Kinda like you read the article Ryan linked before saying negative things about it .
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I think it's pretty obvious that global warming exists, especially considering that several thousand years ago the world was almost entirely encased in ice. Which, to me, suggests that there could be something aside from "it's all the fault of humans, they're the one's to blame" and perhaps more like heating and cooling phases of either the Earth's core or the sun.
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The Neanderthals were responsible for that, with their fancy rock-cars and dinosaur-based internet.

My point isn't to place total faith in everything that video had to say. After all, I do believe that humans are a factor in climate change. I simply don't believe we are the primary cause, that's all, nor do I foresee our world turning into a direct-to-video disaster movie in the near future. The earth is warming. Eventually, it will cool again, as has happened countless times in the last six billion years. We'll survive this. We will adapt. We are already taking measures to rein in our emissions, and I'm happy. I'm all for detaching from fossil fuels... when a better alternative becomes available, and the sooner the better, but not before then.

Besides, what can we do about China and India?
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Kinda like you read the article Ryan linked before saying negative things about it .

It's a television show, not an article, and I watched the first few minuites (which is MORE than enough to get the point, they are not exactly subtle) and read a good part of the Wikipedia article about it, as I said in my post.
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I think it's pretty obvious that global warming exists, especially considering that several thousand years ago the world was almost entirely encased in ice. Which, to me, suggests that there could be something aside from "it's all the fault of humans, they're the one's to blame" and perhaps more like heating and cooling phases of either the Earth's core or the sun.

The ten most recent years are the ten warmest on record (or is it just nine of the top ten? Either way, it doesn't matter). This is not a cooincidence, and it is not an accident, and the evidence all says that it is not purely natural. Of course there is a natural warming and cooling cycle, but the fact is, there's no evidence to suggest that we are merely in a natural warming cycle, and a lot that shows how humans are responsible for the problem. Looking at the historical record, the earth should be moving towards another ice age by now, not warming up even more... but it is warming up, and faster than we hoped.
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My point isn't to place total faith in everything that video had to say. After all, I do believe that humans are a factor in climate change. I simply don't believe we are the primary cause, that's all, nor do I foresee our world turning into a direct-to-video disaster movie in the near future. The earth is warming. Eventually, it will cool again, as has happened countless times in the last six billion years. We'll survive this. We will adapt. We are already taking measures to rein in our emissions, and I'm happy. I'm all for detaching from fossil fuels... when a better alternative becomes available, and the sooner the better, but not before then.

Denial... denial is very dangerous here. The signs all show that the world is warming, and scientists don't know exactly how that process goes -- will it be slow and even? Not necessarially... if a tipping point is hit, things could get much, much worse, very quickly. Could we adapt? Maybe eventually, but not before a lot of people suffer and maybe die...

Oh, also, don't let things like that movie fool you... the number of people who disagree wtih the consensus about global warming in science is small. There's a reason for that, and it's not because of intimidation or jobs like that stupid 'documentary' suggests.
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Besides, what can we do about China and India?

We can do a lot, actually. While we can't directly force them to change, America's influcence in the world is massive, and when it tries to do something, things happen (not always what we want, but things do happen). If we put a big effort behind fighting global warming, publically shamed nations like India and (especially) China for their actions, and backed it up with strong policies here to deal with our problem (since despite the fact that China's global warming emissions are increasing much faster than ours are (and they are in second overall in emissions), our total is still the world's highest), it WOULD matter. A lot.
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I think the fact that Al Gore isn't running for President in 2008 shows how committed he is to the global warming issue. If he didn't care that much about it he could of used the success of his movie to promote a run, but he has said that he wouldn't be able to focus on global warming as much if he were to run for President again. Now I'll be the first to criticize him if he changes this stance, but I think it's great to see a politician so involved in a particular issue. Yes, An Inconvenient Truth did paint a worst-case scenario, but even if global warming isn't totally our fault it does appear that we are a major cause so we should be held accountable.

People need to see the worst-case scenario because otherwise they might not take the issue seriously enough... we might be able to do something now, but even if we do things will get a lot worse before they get better, that much is very clear.

What will it take to convince people that global warming is real, and we're causing it? The total melting of the ice caps and a rise in global sea levels of several dozen feet at least? Winter disssapearing from most of the planet that gets it? What? It has already become noticable that winters are arriving later and leaving earlier these last few years...
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That documentary got dissected on the Something Awful boards, afaik the science is bunk.

What's unfortunate about global warming is that many environmentalists have a socialist bent, and tend to equate pollution with capitalism. They have trouble dissociating "punishing the evil industrialists" and reducing pollution, and therefore their solutions involve choking out the economy in various ways.

But capitalism isn't responsible for pollution - technology is. The USSR, the great communist experiment, was probably the worst polluter in the history of the earth: see the Aral sea, nuclear tests in Kazakhstan, coal-powered heavy industry, the Caspian tiger, etc. Since technology is the culprit, that's what we should address, and in some ways we are. Widespread nuclear power and ethanol-powered cars are just around the corner.

The only thing restricting our economy (with carbon points and whatnot) would do is give China more of an upper hand on us. If we transition directly to a non-polluting economy, we'll leave them in the dust.
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I think it's really sad that "Gore uses energy!" is a counter against "The earth is going through its natural changes at an advanced rate because of us and we're doing nothing about it except arguing over whether or not Gore has an agenda."

Whether Gore has an agenda has no bearing -

Whether the movie contains false info or correct info has no bearing -

Whether the global warming or greenhouse effect taking place (based entirely on hard data above and beyond that of the film) is our fault or not has no bearing -

The Earth is going through a menopause that could wipe out entire species in short time spans of decades (one's we havent even discovered yet as well as entire ecosystems) and make our future day to day lives a very expensive hell where a walk to the 7-11 could result in mild skin disorders and the best our OWN government can do is ARGUE the validity of a MOVIE all because no one wants to spend the extra dough on fitting filters on smoke stacks and fuel injectors for 100% ethanol and have to re-establish decades old money changing between the stuffed suits, the bullshit oil tycoons and privately owned obvious monopolies of energy producing corporations who already rape us and is about to have a major excuse to rape us HARDER.

Not a shining moment for the good old eagle. Everytime Fox News airs a story denying any effect of a global change happening the entire country's collective IQ goes down by ten and the idiots who eat it up have NO IDEA that they're supplying nails to their own coffin figuratively and maybe, just maybe litteraly, but most definitely they are saying "Yes, I want to pay more money to corporations for something that should cost pennies."

Wait 10 years from now, when we're all paying 700 dollar electric bills because not only has it been hiked but we have to run it 24/7 or paying 8 bucks a gallon for gas that uses the same 10% ethanol mix, then you'll see a change. Well, I could have said that ten years ago too, when gas was under 2 dollars a gallon, when the average electric bill (depending on your location) was under 100 bucks for a 2 bedroom house. But just wait, it all goes downhill from here and you call me negative and too much of a doom sayer all you want, and maybe ten years from now someone can find a picture of Al Gore giving a hand job to an arab and drinking unrefined crude oil from a dead baby and we can completely dismiss the idea of any global changes and eat McSnack Wraps while the world systematically cleanses itself of lifeforms and hey, couple hundred years from now we'll know for sure whether or not we should have done something.

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Look, just let me reaffirm that sound scientific results are the ultimate indicator in all this. Obviously, scientific experiments or conclusions drawn from results have potential to be wrong. Instead of becoming hysterical about this issue while the media and politicians exploit it, perhaps we should hold more productive debates about it and present the facts. Objectivity is key.

I'm not minimizing this. I firmly stand by initiatives to ween ourselves off of our oil dependence, along with reducing pollution, fossil fuel emissions, and actively changing the climate of our planet. I just think that it's important to be cautious towards sources of information, and that long-term climate on this earth is not completely determined.
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An occurrence of a change in climate is certain. How much of the responsibility for it that we can put on ourselves is not. Whether this trend in temperature will slow down or quicken is also uncertain, as far as I know. If a spike or severe deviation in global temperature occurs, how long will it hold before returning to normal? We must quantify as much about this as possible to fully know what we're dealing with and what the best solution is.

I think we've got a few good solutions so far, but I wish our energy dependence would change for the better more quickly.
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Definitely.

We'll probably eventually manage something, but at this point I'd expect mass environmental devastation (including a big rise in sea levels) first is more likely than dealing with the problem before it gets REALLY bad is...
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http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/environment

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In the 1950's to 1980's So2 or sulphur dioxoide which was far more common in the past because unlike today there was no enviromental regulation on its heavy usage , So2 caused acid rain destroyed forrests and agriculture but it had the unsual effect of counter acting the effects Co2 so during the time period they showed in the film it should have argueably gone up , It didnt because So2 concenstrations counter acted the Co2.

Now this was what I was told to explain the discrepancy mentioned in this video clip.

Al Gore is a activist not a scientist or climatologist.

Now to say that there isnt some remaining debate on weither or not Global warming is caused by mankind well yes debate and skepticism is part of science.

The real pollution I think we should be more concerned about is cancer causing agents in our food and in domestic products used everyday in our house contaminating our bodies, I agree that global warming has been overblown.
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No, Al Gore is a politician. He has been active on global warming for a long time -- long before it became a popular issue. This is because he realized what was going on well before a lot of people wanted to admit it... but no, you are completely wrong.
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Among real scientists, there isn't any serious debate. While they won't say "it is happening 100%" because that's not how scientists work, they have said "it is happening 90% probability or so", last I heard, and that's about as strong a statement as you're going to get... you just don't want to admit it because of the implications and what it would mean we have to do, which is why it's all the more important that people who actually DO believe get elected while we hopefully still can do something...
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I kinda want to give doomsday prophets like Al Gore the benefit of the doubt and assume that they're being doomsday prophets not because they really believe it's the likeliest result, but because that's what some people need to become aware. Useful cynicism, and all that. I don't believe the doomsday warnings. No doomsday prophet has ever been correct, and I don't see it happening now. But, action does need to be taken. I've done some small things, and in all honesty, I've always been pretty good about my personal environmental habits anyway. There's not much debate on the black and white, but the graduality and scope is very much undecided. Leaning too far towards ignorance obviously has its disastrous results, but going overzealous is not a good idea either. You can't fix things overnight.

I read the Time story, and the expanded version in the magazine. I like many of those ideas, mostly because it goes to show that there is a great awareness, and that even the big evil corporations are taking steps, especially now that there's a mass drive to discover alternate fuel sources. The first companies to figure out that puzzle stand to make a fucking mint, and the ones that lag behind will fall. Simple as that. There's plenty of financial incentive to explore this route. The last thing we need is for the government to step in and force strict mandates. It will harm the economy and turn people antipathetic to the whole concept. The free market appears to be readying itself to tackle the problem like the government never can.
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Something I've uncovered is that the producer of the above documentary has a shady past . Many of those scientist in the documentary are well known for being on the oil lobby pay roll , They get millions of dollars in their pocket if they can produce a convincing refutation of global warming.

Some of the "facts" in the documentary were believed to be true a few years ago but have since been proven false. I am referring specifically to tropospheric temperatures measured by satellites and weather balloons. There were errors in the interpretation of the instruments and these have now been corrected. The documentary appears to be recent but this discovery was not acknowledged.

The thing is who is the one bullshitting? You can see the ideological bias all the way through the film: environmentalist without a cause; environmentalists who want to go back to medieval times; business trying to produce good things for people and getting blamed for all the world's ills; Thatcher saving Britain from the socialists and so on.
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...this is Al Gore, not some random fearmonger...

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Al Gore isn't so much a fearmonger as a publicity whore. Either way, fuck 'em.
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Just so you guys know, the vast majority of climatologists believe that humans have greatly contributed to global warming. So if you're going to take the Glenn Beck attitude of "yeah but not all of them believe it, so it's probably not true!", then more than likely you've already made up your mind on the matter and don't care about the truth as much as upholding whatever side you've aligned yourself with for whatever reason you have (I'm betting in most cases it's because of your politics). Why do you even have to think about politicians like Al Gore when considering this issue? Listen to the climatologists.
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Glenn Beck is an idiot. How did he get a major television show...

... then again, CNN Headline News' other shows are a celebrity "news" show and Nancy Grace, so their standards are obviously not very high...
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I think that whether global warming is a big lie spread by evil men with agendas or the looming apocalypse we should still be taking steps to check our pollution and damage to the environment. The entire western lifestyle kind of makes me sick and guilty when I sit and think about how my ability to drive five blocks to 7-11, buy a bag of laboratory engineered doritos, and back home in my 25 MPG car only exists because our whole country and economic system is standing on top of poor people in third world countries. That whole economic footprint thing, how we would need 4 planets if everyone lived the way we do in America. But then I turn on a sitcom and it's all better.
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C4 accused of falsifying data in documentary on climate change
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
Published: 08 May 2022

The makers of a Channel 4 documentary which claimed that global warming
is a swindle have been accused of fabricating data by one of the
scientists who participated in the film.

The Great Global Warming Swindle was broadcast on 8 March and has been
criticised by leading scientists for errors, distortions and
misrepresentations.

The film has also been referred to the regulatory watchdog Ofcom which
is considering a complaint from 37 senior scientists that the programme
breached the broadcasting code on the misrepresentation of views and
facts.

Now even a climate sceptic whose dissenting views were used by the
film-
makers to bolster their claims about the "lies" and "swindles" of
global
warming has accused the documentary of promulgating falsehoods.

Eigil Friis-Christensen, director of the Danish National Space Centre,
has issued a statement accusing the film-makers of fabricating data
based on his work looking at the links between solar activity and
global
temperatures.

Dr Friiss-Christensen said that a graph he had produced some years ago
showing the link between fluctuations in global temperatures and
changes
in solar activity - sunspot cycles - over the past 400 years had been
doctored. The documentary used the graph to pour scorn on the idea that
the global warming in recent decades is the result of man-made
emissions
of carbon dioxide. Solar activity, the programme stated, is the cause
of
global warming in the late 20th century.

However, Dr Friiss-Christensen has issued a statement with Nathan Rive,
a climate researcher at Imperial College London and the Centre for
Climate Research in Oslo, distancing himself from the C4 graph. He said
there was a gap in the historical record on solar cycles from about
1610
to 1710 but the film-makers made up this break with fabricated data
that
made it appear as if temperatures and solar cycles had followed one
another very closely for the entire 400-year period.

"We have reason to believe that parts of the graph were made up of
fabricated data that were presented as genuine. The inclusion of the
artificial data is both misleading and pointless," Dr Friis-Christensen
said.

"Secondly, although the commentary during the presentation of the graph
is consistent with the conclusions of the paper from which the figure
originates, it incorrectly rules out a contribution by anthropogenic
[man-made] greenhouse gases to 20th century global warming," he said.

Dr Friis-Christensen, a physicist, believes that solar cycles play an
important role in climate change and that not enough effort has gone
into addressing the theory. The fabricated data did not, he said, make
any difference to the overall view he takes but he is still critical of
the way the film handled the scientific evidence. Asked by The
Independent whether the documentary was scientifically accurate, Dr
Friiss-Christensen said: "No, I think several points were not explained
in the way that I, as a scientist, would have explained them ... it is
obvious it's not accurate." Here's some more data...

The C4 programme also used out-of-date solar cycle data relating to the
past 30 or 40 years which made it appear as if temperatures and solar
activity were rising together when in fact solar activity has levelled
off for the past few decades. "After 1985 we don't see any rise or
shortening of the solar cycles compared to what we saw in the
temperature [record]," Dr Friiss-Christensen said.

Dr Friis-Christensen is the second scientist to appear on the programme
who has criticised the way the film was made. Professor Carl Wunsch of
the Massachusetts Institute of Technology said that the way his
interview was edited gave the misleading impression that he was not
concerned about rising levels of carbon dioxide - a diametrically
opposite view to his stated position.

Martin Durkin, who wrote and directed the programme, was unavailable
for
comment but admitted in an email to Mr Rive that the graph was wrong.
"Thank you for highlighting the error on the 400-year graph. It is an
annoying mistake which all of us missed and is being fixed for all
future transmissions of the film. It doesn't alter our argument," Mr
Durkin said.

However, the graph and its fabricated data will still be included in
the
DVD of the programme which went on sale yesterday. The advertising for
the DVD says: "Everything you've ever been told about global warming is
probably untrue. This film blows the whistle on the biggest swindle in
modern history."

Mr Durkin has already apologised for an error in another graph used in
the film which had to be corrected before the film's second
transmission
on the digital channel More 4.

The scientists who have written to Ofcom include Sir John Houghton, the
former chief executive of the Met Office, Lord May of Oxford, a former
government chief scientist and past-president of the Royal Society, and
Professor Chris Rapley, director of the British Antarctic Survey in
Cambridge. In a letter to Mr Durkin they call for changes to the
programme before the DVD version is released, even though DVDs are not
covered by the Ofcom Broadcasting Code.

"So serious and fundamental are the misrepresentations that the
distribution of the DVD without their removal amounts to nothing more
than an exercise in misleading the public," they say.
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Very, very interesting, and the data is pretty hard to ignore.

If you consider falsified information pretty good data.

The only thing we all agree on is that Al Gore's is a douche
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